New coronavirus in/from China

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 08 Mar 2020, 18:27

Vortex2 wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:Temp. 100.3 !
Yours?

100.4 is a fever.

Yes. staying home as of now.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 08 Mar 2020, 18:28

vtsnowedin wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:Temp. 100.3 !
Yours?

100.4 is a fever.
Yes. staying home as of now.

Can't be coronavirus .. that nice Mr Trump has banned it.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 08 Mar 2020, 18:34

clv101 wrote:Italy's latest:

"Italy reports 1,492 new cases of coronavirus and 133 new deaths, raising total to 7,375 cases and 366 dead" https://t.co/eUoE2b20hL

And apparently: "The age of fatalities range from 60 to 95 years old, except 2 under 60. Overall average of total is 81 years old. In 85% cases each was already suffering from an underlying illness."

This is looking truly devastating for the elderly, big demographic, social, political implications.

So old, ill people are dying? In a way this is good news for families paying for care homes, for the health services, for the young who will inherit stuff.

... but what's happening in a youth-biased land such as Iran ???? Still just the oldies popping their clogs?

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 08 Mar 2020, 18:41

https://news.trust.org/item/20200308165848-fihcu/

ROME, March 8 (Reuters) - The death toll from an outbreak of coronavirus in Italy has leapt by 133 to 366, the Civil Protection Agency said on Sunday, by far the largest daily rise in fatalities since the outbreak came to light last month.

The total number of cases in Italy, the European country hardest hit by the virus in Europe, leapt 25% to 7,375 from 5,883 on Saturday, another record jump.

The head of the agency said that, of those originally infected, 622 had fully recovered, compared to 589 the day before. Some 650 people were in intensive care against a previous 567. (Reporting by Crispian Balmer; Editing by Kevin Liffey)

Case, case, case, cluster, cluster, BOOM!

57% jump in deaths in one day.

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 08 Mar 2020, 18:42

Exponential fit, R*R = 0.996 based on data from 27th Feb and later

slot 1 = today, 8 March

Like I said, CSE Grade 3, 1979. I humbly bow and supplicate before such wondrous mathematical stuff.

Non-numerate BSc via OU - harmless and just for fun ('equally applicable BA/BSc, hey, you choose...) (Thanks for the course preview back in 2011, Chris!)

Subjects - Management Diploma, then degree via Energy, Personal Finance, Diabetes Management, Psych 101, Globalisation.

Full member, Business Continuity Institute - disaster planner. Including working up on the 2009 Swine Flu.

Somehow, all of this is now coming together. How very strange! Planning like my life depended on it!

Oh, ex Civil Service too - hated being scapegoated then - as now.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 08 Mar 2020, 18:44

Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:
Exponential fit, R*R = 0.996 based on data from 27th Feb and later

slot 1 = today, 8 March
Like I said, CSE Grade 3, 1979. I humbly bow and supplicate before such wondrous mathematical stuff.

Non-numerate BSc via OU - harmless and just for fun ('equally applicable BA/BSc, hey, you choose...) (Thanks for the course preview back in 2011, Chris!)

Subjects - Management Diploma, then degree via Energy, Personal Finance, Diabetes Management, Psych 101, Globalisation.

Full member, Business Continuity Institute - disaster planner. Including working up on the 2009 Swine Flu.

Somehow, all of this is now coming together. How very strange! Planning like my life depended on it!

Oh, ex Civil Service too - hated being scapegoated then - as now.

If my projections fail miserably I will look like a silly billy ....

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 08 Mar 2020, 18:58

...and a case has just been found in Cheltenham, 2 days before 250,000 people arrive for the festival.

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/n ... 48-3927931

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 08 Mar 2020, 19:10

...and a case has just been found in Cheltenham

.. that is FAR too close for comfort ...

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 08 Mar 2020, 19:39

Oh dear. In which case, there's probably some ten or more in that town, and nearby Gloucester. There was an earlier case in Tetbury.

Never mind the Races! Won't somebody please spare a thought for GCHQ Civil Servants? Bet they already know the grim reality going on in China and Iran via SIGINT and all. Not to mention Trumpland, too. Carefully co-ordineted three way split shifts, deep cleaning between every time, no contact. You'd really like to think so, eh? All this intel, reported to Boris et al, for reliable, sage, guidance.

Post by **clv101** » 08 Mar 2020, 19:47

Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:Bet they already know the grim reality going on in China and Iran via SIGINT and all.

Yes, we can expect the government to have an excellent understanding of the real situation in Wuhan, just from satellite image analysis they must have an estimate of the fatalities, let alone any signal interception.

Point is, the actions of government are better informed than us, they have access to more information than is in the public domain.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 08 Mar 2020, 20:03

Point is, the actions of government are better informed than us, they have access to more information than is in the public domain.

Yep. I tried to blag more info from a govt worker .... tight lipped he was.

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 08 Mar 2020, 20:04

clv101 wrote:
Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:Bet they already know the grim reality going on in China and Iran via SIGINT and all.
Yes, we can expect the government to have an excellent understanding of the real situation in Wuhan, just from satellite image analysis they must have an estimate of the fatalities, let alone any signal interception.

Point is, the actions of government are better informed than us, they have access to more information than is in the public domain.

But, my point still stands - alas, alack alay, woe, woe and thrice woe! Boris, and his mates? Readily dismissive of mere 'experts'... Proactive? Huh. Even reactive would be better than nothing.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » 08 Mar 2020, 20:04

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Apologies if already posted but this thread movies fast

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 08 Mar 2020, 20:06

So, assume the worst - now - grab those tinned prunes as a final nice to have if you dare, and hunker down as best you can.

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 08 Mar 2020, 20:48

Vortex2 wrote:Hospital grab bag

Anyone here preparing a small 'hospital bag' just in case?

This is a damn good observation, overlooked.

Start with a list, so here you go. Medication - repeat prescription list. Allergies - eg penicillin. Major health issues in BIG BLOCK CAPS. Blood group if known.

Recent vital signs and timings if taken prior to admission - blood pressure, temp, blood glucose, oxy saturation.

Contact numbers for next of kin, GP, specialist clinic numbers eg diabetes...

Copy of Living Will / Healthcare Directive.

Recovery phase -

Mobile phone with plenty of credit. Toothbrush, toothpaste. Some mags or paperbacks. Some petty cash - not a lot. Fruit squash, biscuits. Bus fare home. You're immune now... the snot-encrusted grab handles hold no fear.