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What changes can we make to our lives to deal with the economic and energy crises ahead? Have you already started making preparations? Got tips to share?

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Little John wrote:Well, if hunters hunt in groups, perhaps a very good idea might be to weed out the idiots before one goes go hunting in groups
Well not everyone passes the hunter safety course and one of the things they teach is to not tolerate unsafe behavior by others.
And of course you should choose your hunting buddies carefully as your life can depend on them.
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There are many published guides to the safe use of firearms, including safe ways to pass a gun, how to carry it, safe storage and so on.
Whilst times are normal I strongly urge following such advice.

During any serious emergency, instant readiness may be more important than firearm safety.

During serious emergencies it might actually be prudent to keep a loaded gun beside your bed. Much more use than in a locked gun cupboard, with the cartridges stored separately.
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During serious emergencies it might actually be prudent to keep a loaded gun beside your bed. Much more use than in a locked gun cupboard, with the cartridges stored separately.
.. but not in the UK of course ... you wouldn't want to upset The Authorities ...
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adam2 wrote: During serious emergencies it might actually be prudent to keep a loaded gun beside your bed. Much more use than in a locked gun cupboard, with the cartridges stored separately.
If there are no young children in the house (even visitors) then yes but otherwise a bit of control is needed. A locked box in the bedside table with a pin number release latch can keep the unauthorized from getting the weapon.
Don't use 911 as the pin number. Every crook will try that.
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adam2 wrote: During serious emergencies it might actually be prudent to keep a loaded gun beside your bed.
Of course.
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vtsnowedin wrote: A locked box in the bedside table with a pin number release latch can keep the unauthorized from getting the weapon.
Don't use 911 as the pin number. Every crook will try that.
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12 gauge with 00 buck
Indoors? Hmm ...

The pellets are lethal to 100s of metres and can get through steel plate.
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I had forgotten how awful DA triggers are.
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Vortex2 wrote:
12 gauge with 00 buck
Indoors? Hmm ...

The pellets are lethal to 100s of metres and can get through steel plate.
Have to be one hell of a thin plate and very close to the muzzle.
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Vortex2 wrote:
12 gauge with 00 buck
Indoors? Hmm ...

The pellets are lethal to 100s of metres and can get through steel plate.
Really? A .33 caliber lead pellet, moving 1200 fps, gets through steel plate?
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Should have said steel sheet ... specifically ammo boxes .. not quite steel plate ...
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Vortex2 wrote:Should have said steel sheet ... specifically ammo boxes .. not quite steel plate ...
A car door at fifty yards but not much beyond that. Depending on the choke the pellets will be spreading about twelve inches per fifty yards.
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A car door at fifty yards
.. so a perp would be somewhat discombobulated by that ..
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Vortex2 wrote:
A car door at fifty yards
.. so a perp would be somewhat discombobulated by that ..
to say the least. Closer ranges like the width of a bedroom and the whole shot cluster goes through in one very large hole.
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Vortex2 wrote:
A car door at fifty yards
.. so a perp would be somewhat discombobulated by that ..
Sure.
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