New coronavirus in/from China

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 21 Feb 2020, 09:21

UndercoverElephant wrote:100 new cases in South Korea today. 204 total.

Assuming the Koreans are honest, this new outbreak data should allow us to make more accurate predictions.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 21 Feb 2020, 09:51

Anyone know here to get anti viral hand foam?

It's not in stock anywhere - web or High Street.

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 21 Feb 2020, 11:01

Vortex2 wrote:Anyone know here to get anti viral hand foam?

It's not in stock anywhere - web or High Street.

The Spruce.com say -

You can easily make your own at home with rubbing alcohol and aloe vera gel. Just mix 2/3 cup of rubbing alcohol with 1/3 cup of aloe vera gel, and voila. If you like, add a few drops of essential oil for a more pleasant fragrance.

There was plenty of the gel in Boots the other day, only Â£1. As for the isopropyl alcohol, didn't check on that. Maybe neat vodka would work? Seems a waste...

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 21 Feb 2020, 11:10

https://osf.io/ktngw/

The Wuhan coronavirus has integrated in Prevotella, which possibly causes the observed extreme virulence - as sequencing data from 2 different studies in China and Hong-Kong shows unequivocally

If this is true then it explains the long incubation period and asymptomatic infections. Prevotella is a common human gut bacteria. Also implies that the virus could survive in waste water much longer than most viruses.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 21 Feb 2020, 11:25

Some numbers

https://institutefordiseasemodeling.git ... sment.html

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 21 Feb 2020, 11:26

UndercoverElephant wrote:https://osf.io/ktngw/

The Wuhan coronavirus has integrated in Prevotella, which possibly causes the observed extreme virulence - as sequencing data from 2 different studies in China and Hong-Kong shows unequivocally
If this is true then it explains the long incubation period and asymptomatic infections. Prevotella is a common human gut bacteria. Also implies that the virus could survive in waste water much longer than most viruses.

This is just one guy's opinion which hasn't been confirmed AFAIK.

Post by **clv101** » 21 Feb 2020, 11:33

Vortex2 wrote:Anyone know here to get anti viral hand foam?

It's not in stock anywhere - web or High Street.

Should still be able to get isopropyl, mix 70% with water.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 21 Feb 2020, 12:09

Feels like this thing has cranked up another notch in the last couple of days. I wonder how long it will be before China has to admit it is uncontainable. If it becomes clear that other countries have failed to contain it then maybe it will be easier for the CCP to come clean.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 21 Feb 2020, 12:14

If this is true then it explains the long incubation period and asymptomatic infections. Prevotella is a common human gut bacteria. Also implies that the virus could survive in waste water much longer than most viruses.

Also if this works like MRSA it could well permanently infest hospitals by hiding in the dampness around taps and other plumbing.

Even steam cleaning a ward can't kill it when that happens.

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 21 Feb 2020, 12:56

As some here know, I studied nuclear science, and I loved my classes!

It's so very reassuring to know that at nuclear power stations and other such vital nodes everywhere across the globe, all the key workers have already been isolated from their families and friends, into three separated shift teams. So we do know for certain they are safe and the lights won't go out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9NPhEZNe98

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 21 Feb 2020, 13:13

Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:As some here know, I studied nuclear science, and I loved my classes!

It's so very reassuring to know that at nuclear power stations and other such vital nodes everywhere across the globe, all the key workers have already been isolated from their families and friends, into three separated shift teams. So we do know for certain they are safe and the lights won't go out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9NPhEZNe98

Hmm ... having worked in nuclear I can't say that it would be much fun stuck on site.

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 21 Feb 2020, 13:26

Vortex2 wrote:
Hmm ... having worked in nuclear I can't say that it would be much fun stuck on site.

That's already been anticipated in the Plan. There will be live variety shows provided by redundant cruise ship entertainers.

Meet the gang 'cos the boys are here, the boys to entertain you!

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 21 Feb 2020, 13:42

Little John wrote:Some numbers

https://institutefordiseasemodeling.git ... sment.html

Now, that is rather concerning.

Excellent find. No mention in the news? - strange, that.

Post by **adam2** » 21 Feb 2020, 13:49

Most of the public require novelty in their news.
Coronavirus is now yesterdays news and therefore boring to the sheeple.
It will not become hugely newsworthy until a so called celebrity catches it, or until significant numbers of brits die from it.

Meanwhile gossip about the royal family, or about football is more likely to sell newspapers or TV advertising time.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 21 Feb 2020, 14:05

Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:
Little John wrote:Some numbers

https://institutefordiseasemodeling.git ... sment.html
Now, that is rather concerning. Excellent find. No mention in the news? - strange, that.

The population fatality rate seem to be around 1% and yet the confirmed case fatality rate is much higher at around 30%.

Need to get my head around this ..