Iran Watch...

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 09 Jan 2020, 00:22

LJ"

I am hearing rumors of Pompeo being sacked in the near future. If so, then it is a possibility dumbo Trump was bamboozled into this and is only too happy for a way out.

I'm not seeing anything like that on this end. The right sees whacking this A- hole as the equivalent to shooting down Yamamoto during WW2. It will have to go south in a big way before Trump and company will do any retreating. Even if Iran pulls off a successful counterattack Trump will just respond with air strikes on Iran's oil industry and nuclear program which will get him a lot more votes in November.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 09 Jan 2020, 00:30

vtsnowedin wrote:LJ"
I am hearing rumors of Pompeo being sacked in the near future. If so, then it is a possibility dumbo Trump was bamboozled into this and is only too happy for a way out.
I'm not seeing anything like that on this end. The right sees whacking this A- hole as the equivalent to shooting down Yamamoto during WW2. It will have to go south in a big way before Trump and company will do any retreating. Even if Iran pulls off a successful counterattack Trump will just respond with air strikes on Iran's oil industry and nuclear program which will get him a lot more votes in November.

If Trump attacks Iran in the way you have described, the straits of Hormuz will be in flames and impassable and the world economy will shudder to an immediate halt. Iran is not Iraq.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 09 Jan 2020, 00:50

You and I have very different views of the USA's military capability. Let's hope we don't have to find out which is correct.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 09 Jan 2020, 04:09

vtsnowedin wrote:You and I have very different views of the USA's military capability. Let's hope we don't have to find out which is correct.

agreed

fuzzy · Post by **fuzzy** » 09 Jan 2020, 07:06

I am guessing the airline was a demo of the ability to interrupt military control.
Presumably the plane ID was spoofed into something military, or the missile guidance was messed with. I am sure all the forces see it as live fire training.

fuzzy · Post by **fuzzy** » 09 Jan 2020, 07:12

More missiles at green zone - explained as 'Iran'.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 09 Jan 2020, 14:21

Little John wrote:]If Trump attacks Iran in the way you have described, the straits of Hormuz will be in flames and impassable and the world economy will shudder to an immediate halt. Iran is not Iraq.

Yes...and we've been hearing this scenario claimed for decades now. Interestingly, it never happens.

Post by **adam2** » 09 Jan 2020, 18:21

Latest reports state that the Ukrainian airliner "may have been shot down by Iranian anti aircraft missiles"

IMHO, the refusal by the Iranian authorities to allow any independent examination of the flight data recorders suggests that they have something to hide.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51055219

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 09 Jan 2020, 20:49

adam2 wrote:Latest reports state that the Ukrainian airliner "may have been shot down by Iranian anti aircraft missiles"

IMHO, the refusal by the Iranian authorities to allow any independent examination of the flight data recorders suggests that they have something to hide.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51055219

Oh yeah... and who are the "sources" for these "reports"?

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 10 Jan 2020, 01:06

Little John wrote:
adam2 wrote:Latest reports state that the Ukrainian airliner "may have been shot down by Iranian anti aircraft missiles"

IMHO, the refusal by the Iranian authorities to allow any independent examination of the flight data recorders suggests that they have something to hide.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51055219
Oh yeah... and who are the "sources" for these "reports"?

You have a better explanation of why it crashed LJ.? I doubt it.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 10 Jan 2020, 05:47

vtsnowedin wrote:
Little John wrote:
adam2 wrote:Latest reports state that the Ukrainian airliner "may have been shot down by Iranian anti aircraft missiles"

IMHO, the refusal by the Iranian authorities to allow any independent examination of the flight data recorders suggests that they have something to hide.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51055219
Oh yeah... and who are the "sources" for these "reports"?
You have a better explanation of why it crashed LJ.? I doubt it.

That is avoiding answering the question.

I repeat; Do you know who the sources are?

I am bound to note, in the context of the USA having lied about Iraq, about Iran about Syria and, in an identical context to this, having lied about Malaysian flight MH17, it really does take a special kind of stupid to believe the USA is telling the truth this time.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 10 Jan 2020, 08:16

Canada now claiming Iran shot the plane down:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51056311

stumuz1 · Post by **stumuz1** » 10 Jan 2020, 08:24

Plausible video of an air defence missile hitting a target

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... port-says/

This sort of 'mistake' has happened before;

Ukraine, MH 17

USA, 633

USA, British Tornado Gulf war.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 10 Jan 2020, 11:21

You lot are hilarious.

To repeat, in the context of the USA having lied about Iraq, about Iran about Syria and, in an identical context to this, having lied about Malaysian flight MH17, it really does take a special kind of stupid to believe the USA is telling the truth this time. And it makes no difference if the various bitches of the US echo its bullshit. In the absence of evidence, anything put out by the US should be treated with extreme skepticism at all times.

I simply cannot believe I am having to spell this shit out.

stumuz1 · Post by **stumuz1** » 10 Jan 2020, 12:31

Are you saying the plane did not crash?