What can we do to change the minds of decision makers and people in general to actually do something about preparing for the forthcoming economic/energy crises (the ones after this one!)?
Lord Beria3 wrote:Anyway, my point is that whether you think the claims of anti semitism is justified or not within the labour party, it is having an impact in the election.
I don't think it is. Any impact the non-issue of anti-semitism in the Labour party was baked into the cake a long time ago.
Disagree. Its impacting undecided or swing voters and toxifies corbyn vs v vs labour.
Labour would do much better with any other leader.
Peace always has been and always will be an intermittent flash of light in a dark history of warfare, violence, and destruction
That's just because he is thick and spineless and is kowtowing to the smears in order to mitigate them, instead of full frontal standing up to them.
In the meantime, got any evidence? Second time of asking now. In the absence of your provision of any, I am going to call out your claims of endemic antisemitism in the Labour party as the bullshit they are.
Lord Beria3 wrote:
Labour would do much better with any other leader.
So says a tory. The reason Corbyn is leader of the Labour Party is that there was a need for a real left wing party in this country after Blairism. If somebody like Chukka Ummuna became leader, most of the membership would depart.
Lord Beria3 wrote:Is a holocaust denier an anti semite LJ? If yes, than Corbyn statement that the labour party has a anti semitism problem is correct.
Every political party has a small number of genuine lunatics who believe very strange things. There may well be a few real anti-semitists in the Labour Party, nearly all of whom are muslims. However, the number is vanishingly small, and they are dealt with. The real problem has been blown out of all proportion.
UE - do you agree or not that Keir would be polling better than Corbyn if he was currently labour leader?
I genuinely do not know. This is also a different question than what might happen if Starmer takes over after this election, assuming the tories win.
This is the left's chance. They themselves know they will not get a better one. Corbyn will go if he doesn't become PM. Wants to retire.
If, for sake of argument, the Tories win a decent majority (20+), what comes next for Labour? Will Corbyn step down on the 13th? Who will replace? Will the Labour Party smoothly transition to new leadership? Or might the party split into a Corbyn/Momentum faction and centrist faction?
clv101 wrote:If, for sake of argument, the Tories win a decent majority (20+), what comes next for Labour? Will Corbyn step down on the 13th?
Yes. He's 70, and will have fought two elections already. Corbyn is either about to become PM, or about to retire.
Who will replace?
Starmer probably. I just pray it is not Emily Thornberry, because she would be a disaster.
Will the Labour Party smoothly transition to new leadership? Or might the party split into a Corbyn/Momentum faction and centrist faction?
I think if Starmer wins he will be smart enough to keep the party together. I don't think we are heading for a comfortable tory majority. I would not be at all surprised if there is another general election a lot sooner than 2024.
Of all the highly questionable aspects within the leaked trade talk document, the US insistence on banning refernces to climate change in a future trade deal is arguably the most sinister (Page 17, Point 10).
"Climate Change. UK (Gysin) inquired about the possibility of including reference to climate change in a future UK-US trade agreement given that the UK has a strong historical stance on climate change and pushed strongly for the Paris Agreement. UK also highlighted the pressure for this that would come from civil society and NGOs. US (Stewart) responded emphatically that climate change is the most political (sensitive) question for the US, stating it is a ‘lightning rod issue’, mentioning that as of 2015, USTR are bound by Congress not to include mention of greenhouse gas emission reductions in trade agreements. US (Stewart) stated this ban would not be lifted anytime soon."
