Global youth uprising

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 01 Nov 2019, 19:31

Appreciate the population density is very different in the US, but there's still no way that the natural environment could support 327 million...

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 04 Nov 2019, 14:06

ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:............
As for your nanny-state, I can only speculate based on participation with UK peak oilers and some scientific participation with Brits, but kenneal-lagger would seem to indicate this as a high possibility based on his conditioned compliance as it comes to something as important as personal safety. To condition away such a fundamental biologic reaction is nothing short of amazing, and a credit to whatever system the UK uses to instill it in its...citizens.

I do not feel the need to take elaborate precautions over my personal security at the moment as, apart from certain areas mainly in inner cities, it is not something that the average UK citizen has to worry about.

That does not mean to say that I have not taken precautions for my security and that of my family in the future when I see a breakdown in law and order becoming more of a problem. Both my daughter and her husband are experienced users of firearms but on a range rather than rough shooting.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 04 Nov 2019, 16:22

kenneal - lagger wrote: I do not feel the need to take elaborate precautions over my personal security at the moment as, apart from certain areas mainly in inner cities, it is not something that the average UK citizen has to worry about.

Interesting that you even imply you are allowed anything remotely resembling personal security.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 04 Nov 2019, 17:35

I am identifiable from my name and posts so wouldn't want to tell the whole world what I have or have not got.

Post by **adam2** » 04 Nov 2019, 19:02

kenneal - lagger wrote:I am identifiable from my name and posts so wouldn't want to tell the whole world what I have or have not got.

I am less identifiable, but still keep defensive arrangements private.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 05 Nov 2019, 00:08

kenneal - lagger wrote:I am identifiable from my name and posts so wouldn't want to tell the whole world what I have or have not got.

Quite reasonable.

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 05 Nov 2019, 16:29

But of course! Kitchen knives for everyone! Knife fighting classes as well perhaps? Range time with even 22's is better than nothing, certainly.

22s are a lot better than nothing. A high velocity 22 will take down deer at quite a range, So dealing with people would be straightforward.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 05 Nov 2019, 17:01

woodburner wrote:
But of course! Kitchen knives for everyone! Knife fighting classes as well perhaps? Range time with even 22's is better than nothing, certainly.
22s are a lot better than nothing.

Indeed.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 05 Nov 2019, 18:10

I know of no jurisdiction in the US that allows deer hunting with 22 rim fire ammo. While private butchers use them to brain shoot animals up to cattle anything less then a brain shot on a deer would lead to an escaped wounded animal that was not recovered. Even a shot that slipped between the ribs and struck the heart would not put the animal down before it had run hundreds of yards and hidden in heavy cover leaving no blood trail to follow.
That said I don't want anybody shooting at me with a 22long rifle as I'm nowhere as tough as a deer.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 05 Nov 2019, 21:31

vtsnowedin wrote:I know of no jurisdiction in the US that allows deer hunting with 22 rim fire ammo.

Me neither.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 06 Nov 2019, 00:33

ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote: Even a shot that slipped between the ribs and struck the heart would not put the animal down before it had run hundreds of yards and hidden in heavy cover leaving no blood trail to follow.
At the age of 12 and 5 days this is exactly what happened to me with a 6 point buck using a 30-30. Except it ran about 1 mile, jumping 2 barbed wire fences in the process. So it isn't as though poor shot placement with only 22's is the issue here.

Yes a deer that is barely hit with a 30-30 can run for miles and escape but the point is a deer well hit with a 22 can do the same. It makes no difference for a deer hit in a hind leg if it is done with a 22 or a 243 or a 300 Win mag or a howitzer. It still has three legs to go on and will go for miles. A 22lr on the other hand well placed in the chest can let the deer escape while any other common deer hinting round placed in the same spot will bring it down in short order.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 11 Nov 2019, 14:25

So, we have our x2 good 'ol American boys getting their kicks from sharing their gun toting stories yet again....
Over here, we understand that firearms have a limited role in society, but the US obsession (sickness ?) with them has done your country no favours and will continue to do more ill than good...

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 11 Nov 2019, 18:25

Mark wrote:So, we have our x2 good 'ol American boys getting their kicks from sharing their gun toting stories yet again....

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vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 11 Nov 2019, 19:27

Don't worry about defending yourselves from youth gangs. In a few years Putin or his successor will take over the EU and having failed to Brexit you will go into their hands as well. Then the youth will be in Russian army units or gulags and you won't have any personal property or freedom to defend.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 11 Nov 2019, 20:32

vtsnowedin wrote:Don't worry about defending yourselves from youth gangs. In a few years Putin or his successor will take over the EU and having failed to Brexit you will go into their hands as well. Then the youth will be in Russian army units or gulags and you won't have any personal property or freedom to defend.

Oh now VT. You really think the folks we kept the Soviets from rolling over half a century ago have any appreciation for us?