ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:kenneal - lagger wrote:woodburner wrote:....
You had better get a grip, the temperatures in the US have been low, that’s why they were getting snowfall until very recently. It has, as you correctly say been wet (really wet), and the seeds haven’t even been planted in many places. So the rainfall has managed to occur without higher temperatures.
There you go again, woodburner, confusing colder local weather and warmer global climate. You have no clue really! OK the West of the US is colder at the moment but the Arctic has been much, much warmer than usual for the time of year.
The warm moist air from other places finds its way over the west of the US and because the warm moist air rises over the cold air the warm air cools with increased altitude, can't hold the moisture load its got from warmer areas so dumps it as rain, lots of rain! Simples!!
RGR, you can read the above and hopefully learn something as well.
Sure I can learn something. That before, you really meant to be specific about where the temperatures was increasing and accidentally wrote down something much more general, which left you in somewhat of a bind when presented with the obvious consequences of a poorly written statement.
No, RGR, you are reading into what I wrote what you want to read. I wrote that the West of the US is colder and the Arctic is warmer and woodburner and I were discussing the circumstances of crop growth, or not, in the US this year in relation to Climate Change. I did not say one is because of the other. I was contrasting the two. There might be a correlation but I have not looked for one and neither do I intend to.
So to clarify, what you originally meant to say was that because the Arctic is warming, that this causes cooling in the West, and cooling in the American West causes more rain in the Mississippi River valley because the temperatures are higher in the Arctic?
No again! As you have quoted above I wrote "warm moist air from
other places finds its way over the west of the US and because the warm moist air rises over the cold air the warm air cools with increased altitude, can't hold the moisture load its got from warmer areas so dumps it as rain, lots of rain!" I have not seen weather maps of the US this year and I do not intend to look for them. The warm moist air comes from somewhere and that is enough for me.
And these higher Arctic temperatures than caused a big flood in the US. Like...all those other big floods across the same floodplain that happened all those other times when the Arctic WASN'T warming?
You really didn't understand this statement at all, did you?
ReservegrowthRulz wrote:
Are you aware of the dangers of picking a single sample from a distribution of results, and claiming a reason for that difference, without understanding the entire stochastic nature of the exercise in the first place?
You really should read what people write and understand that and not read into what people write what you wish to hear.
