Here's an article that basically implies, "We're doing SFA about biospheric chaos."
What is little understood by the public is that humans have been underestimating the pace and impact of climate change since Swedish chemist Svante Arrhenius first suggested in 1896 that the globe was warming due to emissions of carbon dioxide.
Speeding up deployment of renewable energy while ramping down carbon emissions, reducing meat consumption, and reversing deforestation were considered costly and possibly growth-destroying for the economy. But the ravages of climate change will almost certainly outweigh all of those costs many fold.
So-called 'leaders' are doing nothing, neither are they giving individuals the chance and choice to do something.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
The research team believes they are already seeing today what the recent IPCC report predicted for climate change in 2040. In their words: “It’s a harbinger of a global unraveling of natural systems.�
More evidence of FUBAR-edness.
Lister and Garcia also compared insect abundance studies conducted in the Chamela-Cuixmala Biosphere Reserve in western Mexico in 1980 to the year 2014, finding temps increased 2.4°C and biomass of insects, and arthropods in general, declined 8-fold.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
emordnilap wrote:Good article, puts things in perspective.
As to the war industry's 'jobs', the most pointless employment ever - make something, sell it, your customer destroys it and has to buy another! Brilliant.
Why has the US had continual war since the 1940s? They saw how 'good' it was for capitalism (and these so-called 'jobs'). This is why they don't really want to 'win' wars as such and encourage others to wage it, with western-supplied weaponry.
Violence would not end by closing down all fossil fuel supplies but the environment would benefit megafold.
Ironically their 'health' industry seems to run on a similar premise.
RenewableCandy wrote:Ironically their 'health' industry seems to run on a similar premise.
Quite. The cancer industry for instance. Unreal amounts put into ‘cures’, much directly from the public via charity or government-sponsored research. Zero into causes. Or the statin industry, scam-bastards.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
Another example of changing climate. March 2017 set a new record for rainfall in Shannon, 133.9mm.
Shannon has just beaten that record halfway through March. This time: 147.4mm on the 15th.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
“Greenhouse gas emissions�, “abrupt U-turn�.
Who is going to make the abrupt U-turn? Who are the “leaders�? The ones driving the show are the bilderbergers, they aren’t going to change course for anybody, look at Agenda2030. The perceived “leaders� ie governments do what they are told, or they are removed, permanently, from the planet (Kennedy?). As for abrupt U-turn, it is the climate you are dealing with, and things won’t change because of a bit of tinkering by western posturing governments, even if what they tinker with had anything to do with current conditions. The world has been this way before, Noah could tell you a thing or two.
To become an extremist, hang around with people you agree with. Cass Sunstein
woodburner wrote:......... The world has been this way before, Noah could tell you a thing or two.
While I agree about the bilderburghers the above is unlikely to be true. Only a few times in its history has one species made a significant change to the earth's climate. The change to an oxygen based environment by one plant species was one major change. Human's deforestation to allow for agriculture and the subsequent releaser of CO2 into the atmosphere was another major change which took us our of the glaciation, interglaciation cycle governed by the Milankovitch cycles of earth movements around the sun and around earth's own axis.
Man's releasing of millions of years worth of stored CO2 into the atmosphere in a few hundred years through the burning of vast quantities of fossil fuels is threatening to cause major positive feedbacks (very negative to anything living on the earth) which could see the release of billions of tonnes more CO2 and methane which had been sequestered in ocean sediments and tundra permafrost which would take the earth outside of anything known in the last few million years, probably longer. Noah's flood was a little local episode around the Black Sea as the Med broke through the Bosphorus whereas the earth will see world wide sea level rises not seen since there was last no ice on earth, 20 to 30 metres sea level rise and storms the intensity of which no human has ever seen.
If we don't do something about climate change and we hit a flip point even bilderburghers won't be able to afford the mitigation measures required to make human life on earth tolerable.
I’ll post a longer reply when I have the time, but as a whole, the “world� is doing absolutely nothing to mitigate the claimed AGW. Western governments tinker for political reasons, and China and India are romping along (doing nothing) in any way that suits them. There is an argument that the Chinese are helping by building solar panels. I wonder what is going to happen when all these panels reach the end of life. Do you know, ‘cos I certainly don’t. There will be tens of millions of them to dispose of. Any ideas?
To become an extremist, hang around with people you agree with. Cass Sunstein
Companies in the oil and gas sector, including large groups such as Shell, BP and Exxon, could lose 95% of their value by 2050 if governments take action to limit global warming to 2 degrees Celsius, according to new analysis.
The report, from the investment consultancy Mercer, is one of the first comprehensive attempts to model sector-by-sector effects of climate change, and potential regulatory action to combat it, on investors’ portfolios.
Which means there will be no concerted meaningful Government action to limit Climate Change then...
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools - Douglas Adams.
raspberry-blower wrote:Which means there will be no concerted meaningful Government action to limit Climate Change then...
No. We, the powerless, the majority, have to put up with the bullying tactics of 'real politic'.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
