Brexit process

[stumuz1]

Mark.

You have posted all this a couple of pages back.

Nothings changed!

[Mark]

Mark.

You have posted all this a couple of pages back.

Nothings changed!

No I haven't...., but as you don't read them how would you know ?
Anyway.....

[stumuz1]

Go back a few pages.

Ends report, we're all doomed

CBA, we're all doomed

Same whining different day.

REACH is being transposed into UK law. It is not changing. Simples!

[fuzzy]

Any chemo dudes explain why meths is such a rip-off?

[adam2]

Any chemo dudes explain why meths is such a rip-off?

As in methylated sprits ?
I paid only about £2 a liter which did not seem excessive.

[UndercoverElephant]

So we have an agreement. It will keep NI in the CU and SM, and the UK in the CU, with no power to escape. Full Vassal State. Breaks all sorts of tory manifesto pledges, and direct promises from TM. Crosses the DUP's red lines and will be totally unacceptable to the ERG.

If I had known this travesty would be what brexit looked like, there's no way I would have voted for it. This is not brexit; it is a joke.

Presumably her plan is try repeatedly to get it through parliament while attempting to make sure no other options are possible, until enough MPs on all sides cave in because they are scared of the No Deal she won't let happen.

If it gets through, the tory party will be torn apart and UKIP support will skyrocket. This is not over. She must not be allowed to get away with this.

[Little John]

So, if you had known that your political class would have betrayed you, you would have just shuffled off and remembered your place and not bothered voting for what you believed to be right?

If this passes, God help this country.

[Lord Beria3]

I haven't seen the details of the agreement yet but the signs are that this is unacceptable to many Leavers.

I would prefer a mitigated no deal Brexit. But I will await the final details to come through this week.

[woodburner]

Lots of options on ebay here is an example

[UndercoverElephant]

I haven't seen the details of the agreement yet but the signs are that this is unacceptable to many Leavers.

No deal is clearly better. Remain is better. In fact, among Theresa May's long list of serious problems, she is now going to have to worry about leavers swinging behind a second referendum in order to avoid this deal, because they think it is worse than remaining on current terms.

[UndercoverElephant]

I see a path opening up to Lexit.

It will soon be clear that at least a third of the tory MPs and half the membership want a no deal. Theresa May isn't going to let that happen, so to get her deal through the HoC she does a deal with Labour to get it through. We leave the EU at the end of March next year, trapped in a customs union until we do a trade deal with the EU which makes a border in Ireland unneccesary, or find a new arrangement for NI.

TM is toppled in April, and replaced by Raab, who calls a general election later in 2019. Labour manifesto promises a border poll in northern ireland, with some sweeteners to make sure the Irish agree to unification, both sides of the border. Tories lose 100 seats at the election, and we end up either with a labour majority, or a hung parliament with Corbyn in Downing Street. Irish reunification follows, Corbyn wins the Nobel Peace Prize and Labour gets at a second term in office to implement Lexit.

[vtsnowedin]

I see a path opening up to Lexit.

It will soon be clear that at least a third of the tory MPs and half the membership want a no deal. Theresa May isn't going to let that happen, so to get her deal through the HoC she does a deal with Labour to get it through. We leave the EU at the end of March next year, trapped in a customs union until we do a trade deal with the EU which makes a border in Ireland unneccesary, or find a new arrangement for NI.

TM is toppled in April, and replaced by Raab, who calls a general election later in 2019. Labour manifesto promises a border poll in northern ireland, with some sweeteners to make sure the Irish agree to unification, both sides of the border. Tories lose 100 seats at the election, and we end up either with a labour majority, or a hung parliament with Corbyn in Downing Street. Irish reunification follows, Corbyn wins the Nobel Peace Prize and Labour gets at a second term in office to implement Lexit.

Lots of predictions there. Have to file it away to dredge back up about a year from now to either shower you with praise or razz you into oblivion depending on the actual outcome.

[Little John]

1) ROI have said they do not want a hard border between them and NI. The UK has also said they do not want a hard border with ROI. So, the only party that want to make things difficult vis a vis the border is the EU. In other words, there is no "border problem" save that which is being artificially created by the EU and traitorous Remainers in our own political class. With that in mind, it is ROI who needs to decide which side their bread is buttered.

2) So long as the DUP exists and so long as they have a constituency in NI, there will never be reunification. Nor will there be separate arrangements vis a vis the EU with NI.

[UndercoverElephant]

So long as the DUP exists and so long as they have a constituency in NI, there will never be reunification.

How can they stop it?

[jonny2mad]

So long as the DUP exists and so long as they have a constituency in NI, there will never be reunification.

How can they stop it?

civil war