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The beginning of the end of the end

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I just wish we would all get on with nuking each other and give the rest of life a break.

There is just no bloody hope for us humans. It's not even like it's our fault in the final analysis. We are just doing what any other species would do if they had evolved brains big enough.
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UndercoverElephant wrote:No quote. Read all of it. :-(

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ng-logging
Not a good strategy to get people to read something. If you can't copy and past a interesting paragraph as a teaser why would anybody bother to read further?
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vtsnowedin wrote: If you can't copy and past a interesting paragraph as a teaser why would anybody bother to read further?
This is Powerswitch, not Twitterbook. :-)
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UndercoverElephant wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote: If you can't copy and past a interesting paragraph as a teaser why would anybody bother to read further?
This is Powerswitch, not Twitterbook. :-)
So this site is different? but your point is?
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I don't trust The Guardian to report anything with any semblance of impartiality given the amount of misandrist hate speech they publish.
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boisdevie wrote:I don't trust The Guardian to report anything with any semblance of impartiality given the amount of misandrist hate speech they publish.
Yes but.

Bolsonaro is yet another devil incarnate. His being elected is scary, Guardian or no Guardian.
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emordnilap wrote:
boisdevie wrote:I don't trust The Guardian to report anything with any semblance of impartiality given the amount of misandrist hate speech they publish.
Yes but.

Bolsonaro is yet another devil incarnate. His being elected is scary, Guardian or no Guardian.
OK. Care to provide some evidence to back that up as claiming something is not an argument. I could claim that you are a fool but I'd really need some evidence to back that up for the claim to have any validity.
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Apparently, I'm not the only one who has major disregard for Bolsanaro.

This might be a good place to start, rather than the Guardian.
The president elect of the world’s 4th largest democracy has vowed to open up vast swaths of the iconic rainforest to multinational logging, cattle, mining and agricultural industries. With this one political victory the world’s ruling capitalist elite saw more dollar signs than in their wildest dreams, and the earth’s “lungs� were given a terminal prognosis.
Electoral promises may not be 'evidence' in some eyes but hey, each to her own.

Bolsanaro's election comes at a time of Collapsing Rain Forest Ecosystems - just what is required.
Our results suggest that the effects of climate warming in tropical forests may be even greater than anticipated.
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Quoting from a blogger who put no actual references in their blog is hardly convincing.
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I saw some pretty horrendous reports from an environmental point of view on BBC World News while I was away of what Bolsanaro was promising to do. It certainly depressed me for a while.
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kenneal - lagger wrote:I saw some pretty horrendous reports from an environmental point of view on BBC World News while I was away of what Bolsanaro was promising to do. It certainly depressed me for a while.
He is a vocal opponent of same-sex marriage (and homosexuality in general), abortion, affirmative action, drug liberalization and secularism. In foreign policy, he has advocated closer relations to the United States and Israel. During the 2018 presidential campaign, he started to advocate for economic liberal and pro-market policies.
Journalist Glenn Greenwald called Bolsonaro "the most misogynistic, hateful elected official in the democratic world". News.com.au wondered whether Bolsonaro was "the world’s most repulsive politician". British news magazine The Economist referred to him as a "radical", "religious nationalist", a "right-wing demagogue", and "apologist of dictators". Federico Finchelstein, scholar on fascism and populism, has considered Bolsonaro, as he would link violence to austerity and neoliberal economic ideas, to be the most similar leader to Augusto Pinochet to come out from the young South American democracies.
There again, that's only Wikipedia. :roll:
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And Madagascar is about to elect another Bolsanaro. These guys’ handlers have the media sewn up of course. Money always goes to money.

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emordnilap wrote:Apparently, I'm not the only one who has major disregard for Bolsanaro.

This might be a good place to start, rather than the Guardian.
The president elect of the world’s 4th largest democracy has vowed to open up vast swaths of the iconic rainforest to multinational logging, cattle, mining and agricultural industries. With this one political victory the world’s ruling capitalist elite saw more dollar signs than in their wildest dreams, and the earth’s “lungs� were given a terminal prognosis.
Electoral promises may not be 'evidence' in some eyes but hey, each to her own.

Bolsanaro's election comes at a time of Collapsing Rain Forest Ecosystems - just what is required.
Our results suggest that the effects of climate warming in tropical forests may be even greater than anticipated.
From the free market-loving members of the Free Brazil Movement (MBL) to religious fundamentalists, from the followers of the far-right "philosopher" and astrologer Olavo de Carvalho to the traditionally conservative, promilitary interventionists, almost all of Brazil's prominent right-wing activists united behind the populist politician. Even Integralistas, a fascist movement founded in Brazil in the 1930s, and the monarchists declared their support for "Bolsonarism".
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In light of the corruption scandals surrounding the Bolsonaro family, the MPs' "ill-advised" trip to China and the president's apparent lack of vision regarding the future of Brazil's economy, some of his supporters appear a bit less enthusiastic about his presidency now.

Many of those who had been vocal on social media previously are staying silent about these mishaps. Some are even saying that they are ashamed of their vote.

For those of us who saw through Bolsonaro's act last year, neither the corruption scandals, nor his lack of vision and consistency seems surprising.
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