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kenneal - lagger wrote:
woodburner wrote:Particularly with books, many small booksellers use the platform you dislike to advertise their books. They probably pay taxes too. Waterstones however buy out these smaller booksellers.
Find these smaller sellers and buy direct from them to stop DODGY TAX AVOIDERS profiting as well.
Honestly, these "dodgy tax avoiders" are getting out of hand now.
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Companies such as the company with the name of the famous South American river are an insidious danger to every one. By avoiding their fair share of taxation it enables them to significantly undercut their tax paying competition and eventually puts that competition out of business.

We have a very successful retail group in the UK, The John Lewis Partnership, which is effectively a worker owned cooperative which pays its full share of taxes and fair wages without over paying its executives, which has announced that, in current trading conditions, it only has about five years left before it loses out to none tax paying competition. That would mean tens of thousands of well paid jobs being lost. It would also mean the loss to the government of the taxation from those jobs and also from the corporate taxation. Yes DODGY TAX AVOIDERS would replace some of those jobs but DODGY TAX AVOIDERS pay slave wages to far fewer people so the tax take from the wages would be much lower and all the profits would be off shored and the corporate taxation would be lost.

By not paying taxes and claiming an unfair proportion of the market they put a much higher tax burden on the idiots who continue to use those companies as well as the rest of us. It is only a matter of time before the DODGY TAX AVOIDER becomes a virtual monopoly and puts its prices right up and the lazy idiots who now use it will end up paying far more than they should for every thing that they buy.

These companies are also destroying the very economy that they rely on to make their ill gotten gains by off shoring their profits and taking that money out of circulation. With less and less money in the economy it is dieing as people don't have any spare cash to spend on purchases from DODGY TAX AVOIDERS and its like. They are killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

That is why BobbyFields is correct in saying what s/he did above although I suspect it was an attempt at irony.
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kenneal - lagger wrote:Companies such as the company with the name of the famous South American river are an insidious danger to every one. By avoiding their fair share of taxation it enables them to significantly undercut their tax paying competition and eventually puts that competition out of business.
Precisely. Companies such as these, plus the explosion of tax havens in the last few decades, plus the lack of taxation generally on financial transactions, all hold back the possibility of some kind of citizens' income.
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“Glyphosate is so safe you can drink it.� How many times have you heard it?

Well here’s the inside story where it describes an antibiotic patented in 2001 which kills most bacteria, except salmonella and clostridium dificile. That’s useful then, NOT.
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A book to read while the rest of the family are wasting time watching weddings this weekend is The Myths of Safe Pesticides

A comparison that was done relating to the neurological development of small children by comparing typical pencil drawings from the children living in the valleys where they were exposed to high levels of pesticides with the drawings from children of the same age but living higher up on the hillsides with less exposure. The mental retarding of the valley children is so obvious by comparison of these “simple� drawings.


(Edited for spelling of "weddings" for clarity- Kenneal 30/11/18 )
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To become an extremist, hang around with people you agree with. Cass Sunstein
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woodburner wrote:A book to read while the rest of the family are wasting time watching weedings this weekend is ....
Sings ... "I got gardnin' on ma mind!!!"
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Hopefully this will take both of them down but there are still companies like Dow who might take up the slack. That depends on who can take Dow to court.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doZlgrVW ... e=youtu.be

Seeds of freedom.....

(Video about the dangers of GMOs, chemical farming, loss of seed diversity and the control of the sizegenetics world food system by a few agribusiness corporations - Kenneal 30/11/18 )
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That's actually a legit link and very interesting.

A bit more text might convince us to try it!
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(A short) article worth reading.
Bayer's stock has lost $38 billion in value since Bayer acquired Monsanto. The company would have done better putting its $63 billion in cash into a hole in the ground.
Good, good. We approve.
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