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I feel that you are falling into the trap set by the Islamic militants and blaming all Moslems for the failures of the few and joining the hard right on the way. There is a very fine line to step over between defending our culture and joining the hard right in attacking another culture
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fuzzy wrote:I have a copy of the koran in english - audiobook. This came from a genuine 5 a day carpet kisser . Just for the record, he was painfully friendly, cheerful, diplomatic etc.

Basically the book says, in English, that he wants me dead. The rule is recinders of faith first, non religious next, then other faiths. This is not ambiguous, and it repeats it a lot. mp3 copies could be supplied.


Did you ask your friend about that?

By the way that was what Johnny2mad said about Islam some time ago so it is no surprise to me.
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No, it never occurred to me to get into a conversation about religion with someone who is instructed to kill me. He listens to it while he drives a company van. I called at my house and copied it one day when I was out and about.
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kenneal - lagger wrote: There is a very fine line to step over between defending our culture and joining the hard right in attacking another culture
I'd quite happily attack any other culture that things gay people should be in prison or killed. And any culture that treated women as second class citizens. I cannot tolerate the intolerant.
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That would be UK less than 50 years ago, well within my personal memory
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What about a culture that normalises conspicuous consumption which is literally causing a mass extinction event and dramatically altering the climate?

Why do we 'tolerate' flying? One of the cheapest and fastest ways someone can put carbon into the atmosphere. The impacts of climate change are likely worse than any previously anthropogenic atrocity... yet still is normal, acceptable, encouraged behaviour to fly to Barcelona for a weekend.
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That question could be just as easily directed back. Why the willingness to tolerate the one but not the other.

Is it because one is sufficiently abstract (though not for too much longer), whilst the other is uncomfortably close to to home?

And you wonder why a mass of ordinary people, especially outside of London, despise the Liberal Left and don't give a shit about green issues?
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fuzzy wrote:No, it never occurred to me to get into a conversation about religion with someone who is instructed to kill me. He listens to it while he drives a company van. I called at my house and copied it one day when I was out and about.
Perhaps you should report it to the police to see what happens. Incitement to kill is a criminal offence.
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A reason for not caring for environmental issues (apart from not having time, money or energy and having too much else on their plates) is it's not personal. It's glaciers melting, so many ppm, science talk.

We won't do anything about climate breakdown because it's not currently a personal disaster in the west.
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This is true E
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The people who are suffering from climate breakdown right this minute are mostly those in the most powerless communities - see flood watch.
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The UK terrorist attack threat level has just been raised to "critical" the highest level possible.

It is not clear if this is in response to the not very successful bomb on a train earlier today, or due to some other threat.
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The latest updates in the police investigation into the Parsons Green attack (which could have been far worse) vindicate my long-standing hostility to letting Muslim refugees into Britain.

The pro-refugee lobby smeared as "racist" those who worried about the national security risks of letting Muslim migrants into Britain. I think the tragic events in London have shown that these concerns were entirely valid.
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Lord Beria3 wrote:The latest updates in the police investigation into the Parsons Green attack (which could have been far worse) vindicate my long-standing hostility to letting Muslim refugees into Britain.

The pro-refugee lobby smeared as "racist" those who worried about the national security risks of letting Muslim migrants into Britain. I think the tragic events in London have shown that these concerns were entirely valid.
Offer them refuge and they repay the kindness with an attempt at mass murder. I wonder for how much longer the left will bend over and continue being shafted before they realise that radical islam is here and it's dangerous.
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Offer them... they... The vast vast majority have no interest in 'mass murder'. It is wrong to chastise thousands of decent people because of the behaviour of a few.
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