USA presidential elections 2016

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 12 Nov 2016, 16:33

Potemkin Villager wrote:...Whatever he experienced in the oval office clearly had a big impact on Trump.

It was probably Obama telling him that he will be able to F*** All without the support of the mainstream Republican Party in Congress. He might as well give up and go home now because they will only support what big business wants and that is to retain control of government through bribery and corruption and any other way necessary.

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 12 Nov 2016, 19:46

In that case Trump will reach out to the Dems.

Remember, he is the deal maker!

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 12 Nov 2016, 19:48

They are still picking at the bones of the campaign but missing the heart of the problem. One place says the Clinton Brooklyn office was arrogant and wouldn't listen to staffers at the DNC, another says Hillary got ahead of herself and spent time in Arizona that should have been spent in the blue wall states. All true enough I suppose but that wouldn't have mattered if the Democrat candidate had not been caught repeatedly in flat out lies or had not gone from being "Flat broke" to multi millionaires in eight years of speaking fees and book advances or set up a "Foundation" that is obviously a pay to play operation of bribery if not treason.
If just five percent of voters in the battleground states did not see Hillary in that glaring light Trump would have lost.
My advise to them for the next time around is to start with an honest candidate.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 12 Nov 2016, 19:58

Lord Beria3 wrote:In that case Trump will reach out to the Dems.

Remember, he is the deal maker!

Yes that might happen a lot with Trump. The senate is split 51/49 so to get the votes to end a filibuster he needs to bring on 15 Democratic votes.
Let the sausage making begin.

Potemkin Villager · Post by **Potemkin Villager** » 13 Nov 2016, 13:07

The sort of thing that might have happened to Trump in the oval office.

https://youtu.be/jxiT30N6ti4

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 16 Nov 2016, 18:40

The corrupt practices begin:

The Republican president-elect dismissed New Jersey governor Chris Christie as the head of his transition team, replacing him with vice-president-elect Mike Pence. Christie’s demotion was orchestrated by Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, The New York Times reported. Christie sent Kushner’s father to jail while serving as a federal prosecutor in 2004

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 16 Nov 2016, 19:19

woodburner wrote:The corrupt practices begin:
The Republican president-elect dismissed New Jersey governor Chris Christie as the head of his transition team, replacing him with vice-president-elect Mike Pence. Christie’s demotion was orchestrated by Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, The New York Times reported. Christie sent Kushner’s father to jail while serving as a federal prosecutor in 2004
Read more........

There is nothing corrupt about that decision. Christy is tainted by the scandal of bridge gate where his top aids were convicted of wrong doing. And there is nothing that requires you to let bygones be bygones when it comes to actual jail time. Trump needs a team at the top that he can trust as well as being competent at their jobs. Christy fills neither requirement.
There are plenty of lower positions for those less trusted that can be supervised and controlled by the top team. As time goes on those that prove out will rise into slots others fail at.

johnhemming2 · Post by **johnhemming2** » 16 Nov 2016, 19:42

I thought the Christie decision was probably from the bridge issue. It could be affected by other things, however.

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 16 Nov 2016, 20:31

The fact that Trump dismissed Christie is a good sign.

Of course, woodburner has his own agenda to play here...

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 16 Nov 2016, 23:45

Lord Beria3 wrote:The fact that Trump dismissed Christie is a good sign.

Of course, woodburner has his own agenda to play here...

What are you on about? I haven't got an agenda. Yours is a rather trump like statement. Ie one with no foundation in fact, but then I suppose you are, a la trump, "just sayin'".

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 17 Nov 2016, 01:56

woodburner wrote:
Lord Beria3 wrote:The fact that Trump dismissed Christie is a good sign.

Of course, woodburner has his own agenda to play here...
What are you on about? I haven't got an agenda. Yours is a rather trump like statement. Ie one with no foundation in fact, but then I suppose you are, a la trump, "just sayin'".

Funny that you two off in the UK would get to crossed rapiers over Trumps policies.
Do you really fear that his policies will effect your lives that much?

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 17 Nov 2016, 08:19

Trumphobia is the irrational fear of Donald Trump and is immune to either fact nor rational argument. That's what I was referring to woodburner.

tbh I don't think Trump will make much of a difference but the main reason I preferred him was that he was far less likely to stumble into a nuclear war with Russia than Hilary "no flyzone" Clinton.

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 17 Nov 2016, 08:29

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/ ... ps.html?m=

Very good article explaining why Trump won and the dems lost.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 17 Nov 2016, 09:50

Only one single thing is entirely predictable during DT's reign: the 1% getting stupendously richer.

careful_eugene · Post by **careful_eugene** » 17 Nov 2016, 10:40

vtsnowedin wrote:
woodburner wrote:
Lord Beria3 wrote:The fact that Trump dismissed Christie is a good sign.

Of course, woodburner has his own agenda to play here...
What are you on about? I haven't got an agenda. Yours is a rather trump like statement. Ie one with no foundation in fact, but then I suppose you are, a la trump, "just sayin'".
Funny that you two off in the UK would get to crossed rapiers over Trumps policies.
Do you really fear that his policies will effect your lives that much?

Trumps policies will affect everyone whether inside or outside the US. Some of this may be positive i.e. better relations with Russia and the rolling back of US military ambitions. For me the big negative is that he is a climate change denier and the VP who is likely to take charge when Trump gets bored also denies science.