Migrant watch (merged topic)

[biffvernon]

But more seriously, the peculiar case of Palestinian refugees in Syria who have become refugees from their former place of refuge.
http://www.map-uk.org/campaign-with-us/ ... from-syria

[UndercoverElephant]

But more seriously, the peculiar case of Palestinian refugees in Syria who have become refugees from their former place of refuge.
http://www.map-uk.org/campaign-with-us/ ... from-syria

That state of affairs is not going to be peculiar for very much longer.

Wake up, Biff.

[kenneal - lagger]

And why are the Palestinians refugees in the first place? Because of uncontrolled mass migration into their homeland which has displaced them from their homes!

[kenneal - lagger]

... That perhaps we shouldn't be exporting the weapons used in these conflicts, ....

I didn't know that we manufactured Kalashnikovs and those big anti aircraft guns that they fit on the back of Toyota pickups that we also don't manufacture.

[biffvernon]

And why are the Palestinians refugees in the first place? Because of uncontrolled mass migration into their homeland which has displaced them from their homes!

I would describe it as military invasion and ethnic cleansing, contrary to UN resolution 242 and several other, on the part of Israel. The increase in population by movement of Israelis was not a significant factor.

[biffvernon]

I didn't know that we manufactured Kalashnikovs

That depends on who you define as "we". I certainly don't make any but my fellow EU citizens in Bulgaria and Hungary are now the chief manufacturers.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 9UwU&hl=en

[jonny2mad]

And why are the Palestinians refugees in the first place? Because of uncontrolled mass migration into their homeland which has displaced them from their homes!

I would describe it as military invasion and ethnic cleansing, contrary to UN resolution 242 and several other, on the part of Israel. The increase in population by movement of Israelis was not a significant factor.

open a book on the subject

you had a migration of unarmed refugees in the 1930s 1940s and displaced people after 1945 arriving in isreal, the british tried to stop these people arriving in palestine because they could see the shift in demographics would cause a war, and in 1948 it did .

it was not a military invasion it was a unarmed migration that turned into military conflict when the migrants had the numbers they formed a army and created a state .

The isrealis at the begining didnt have a army, the army was formed from former terrorist groups. At the begining they didnt have arms the unarmed refugees made arms. things like sten guns were made in peoples houses.

You can see the begining of the same process happening in france and in europe

[jonny2mad]

you had a uprising of arabs in the mid 1930s partly because of the increase in the numbers of jews coming to palestine thats why the british limited immigration or tried to .

These jews were fleeing persecution and those nasty palestinians didnt want to take them in

But then the palestinians were driven out of their homes a few years later by these former refugees

[jonny2mad]

When you see the french army saying that french muslims 5th generation french muslims are smuggling arms and intend taking over parts of france to set up islamic states. and at the same time see organised attacks killing hundreds of people . And the french army find hundreds of guns hidden in places like mosques . and you see masses of muslims migrating to france helped by people like you and your traitor mates

Your basically seeing the same process that you saw in palestine .

When you see sheriah patrols cropping up all over europe your seeing part of the same process.

[jonny2mad]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMsU9Ex-kJY

[kenneal - lagger]

Some facts at last!!

[johnhemming2]

Your basically seeing the same process that you saw in palestine .

There was a very different approach in Palestine. Immigration rules have changed substantially over the last 20 years. (At least in the UK). Whereas there used to be an assumption that anyone who was in the UK for a long time would become a citizen that is now not necessarily the case.

[kenneal - lagger]

I didn't know that we manufactured Kalashnikovs

That depends on who you define as "we". I certainly don't make any but my fellow EU citizens in Bulgaria and Hungary are now the chief manufacturers.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 9UwU&hl=en

That would be a good reason to disconnect from the evil arms dealer, Europe, then.

[kenneal - lagger]

Your basically seeing the same process that you saw in palestine .

There was a very different approach in Palestine. Immigration rules have changed substantially over the last 20 years. (At least in the UK). Whereas there used to be an assumption that anyone who was in the UK for a long time would become a citizen that is now not necessarily the case.

But John, we don't really know how many illegals we have living here, do we? We don't know how many of the Calais campers are getting in. We don't know how many of the economic migrants being given EU papers in Germany and other countries are going to come here. We have no control over our borders from Europe. With the cutbacks in the UK Border Force we don't really know how many containers of arms have arrived here. We don't know how many Jihadists have come back from ISIS and are setting up sleeper cells.

Immigration rules or lack of them aren't the problem, it's the enforcement of them that is sadly lacking.

[johnhemming2]

We have reasonably good ideas on many of these things.