Migrant watch (merged topic)

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 19 Dec 2015, 14:24

Who will read this?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/d ... ais-jungle

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 19 Dec 2015, 14:58

Read it biff have you read the comments

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 19 Dec 2015, 15:08

biffvernon wrote:Who will read this?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/d ... ais-jungle

Lots of people, by the look of the comments section who, like me, think that people like you are dangerous fools who are advocating dangerous, foolish nonsense. Thank goodness people appear to be finally waking up to the reality of what this is actually about.

Thanks for that link Biff. It's really made my day.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 19 Dec 2015, 22:15

biffvernon wrote:Who will read this?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/d ... ais-jungle

Lots of people in Afghanistan, hopefully.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 20 Dec 2015, 00:02

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35140794

It is often said that crises in the EU give an impetus for further integration - "more Europe".

There was a new example of that at this week's Brussels summit.

EU leaders agreed on the need for a new "European Border and Coast Guard", with greater powers and resources than the current Frontex border agency.

The European Commission stressed that the new force would not usurp the authority of national border staff - it would work alongside them.

Controversially, however, if a member state fails in its duty to protect the EU's external borders, during an emergency, the Commission could deploy EU guards without needing the state's permission.

And part of the guards' remit would be to send failed asylum seekers back -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35124118

Migrant crisis: Is Germany far right rise echo of the past?

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 20 Dec 2015, 03:58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsjc5CVujrM his numbers are interesting and why I keep saying the future belongs to people who have lots of kids and why people not having kids for the planet are insane.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 20 Dec 2015, 10:34

jonny2mad wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsjc5CVujrM his numbers are interesting and why I keep saying the future belongs to people who have lots of kids and why people not having kids for the planet are insane.

I don't believe that people not having kids, either because they are concerned about overpopulation or about the life prospects for their children. However, if it is combined with a belief in unlimited immigration or no limits to the rights of other people to have children, then it becomes insanity.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 20 Dec 2015, 11:20

jonny2mad wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsjc5CVujrM his numbers are interesting and why I keep saying the future belongs to people who have lots of kids and why people not having kids for the planet are insane.

I was more interested in his conclusions and his examples of South African farmers and Christians in Lebanon. I don't think you can just tell the white college girls to start popping out four babies each so you have to look at stopping the Muslim girl, which is a piece of property and a sex slave, from being forced to bear her four to seven children.

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 20 Dec 2015, 11:26

Or you have to either seperate or get them to leave .

I'm on a facebook page called Firearms united basically opposed to further anti gun laws in europe .

And they just posted What's going on in France?

Rumours say the governments of France and Belgium are the most active in banning semiautomatic weapons - but they do this only behind the curtain and not in public. Rumours say they have a huge section of the population that would legally qualify to own firearms, but they don't trust them: we're talking about second-generation citizens, born from immigrants of former Colonies.

So the french and belgiums are trying to get a ban on all semi auto across europe because they dont trust some of their citizens

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 20 Dec 2015, 12:32

jonny2mad wrote:Or you have to either seperate or get them to leave .

I'm on a facebook page called Firearms united basically opposed to further anti gun laws in europe .

And they just posted What's going on in France?

Rumours say the governments of France and Belgium are the most active in banning semiautomatic weapons - but they do this only behind the curtain and not in public. Rumours say they have a huge section of the population that would legally qualify to own firearms, but they don't trust them: we're talking about second-generation citizens, born from immigrants of former Colonies.

So the french and belgiums are trying to get a ban on all semi auto across europe because they dont trust some of their citizens

Actually I think your government and elites fear anybody with a gun not in their direct employ. Pointless anyway as when they have removed all guns from private hands the Muslims will still have knives and suicide bombs as well as the power of the ballot box.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 20 Dec 2015, 19:59

Always good to have objective reporting about migration.
http://www.trust.org/item/20151218175406-djj5p/

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 20 Dec 2015, 21:29

biffvernon wrote:Always good to have objective reporting about migration.
http://www.trust.org/item/20151218175406-djj5p/

What are you talking about? This report is by the "Ethical Journal Network". This organisation is fully committed to a contemporary liberal agenda. Thus, all of its reports and articles will reflect that. Consequently, whilst the facts it reports on may or may not be objective, the analysis and comment that flow from those facts (of which this report is an example) are informed by that liberal agenda and so are no more or less "objective" than any other organisation.

AutomaticEarth · Post by **AutomaticEarth** » 05 Jan 2016, 15:21

Looks like some countries are starting to use their brains:-

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/j ... om-denmark

fuzzy · Post by **fuzzy** » 10 Jan 2016, 17:15

A bit of black humour/horror for the hand wringers to face up to - which they won't. Ever wondered why the wailing mothers in the Calais tent slums are at the back of the line? Meet a few youngsters who really aren't running from conflict:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=382njADcWvE

madibe · Post by **madibe** » 12 Jan 2016, 02:11

I see Germany are turning them away now back to Austria. About fricken time.