Migrant watch (merged topic)

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 13 Sep 2015, 10:12

kenneal - lagger wrote: I apologise, Biff I got my geography slightly wrong.

That would have been a good place to stop.

Consider Nieuwerkerk aan den IJssel, a town of some 22000 people. It lies about 6 metres below Amsterdam Datum, the summer mean sea level.

My house is at 2 metres above Ordnance Datum.

If the Dutch can manage their sea defences today, Lincolnshire should be able to manage its through this century. We know how to do it and we have the capacity.

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 13 Sep 2015, 10:34

johnhemming2 wrote:
AutomaticEarth wrote:Amazing to see the Poles and Slovaks complaining about taking refugees when the people of these countries have come to Western Europe.
It is about competing for resources.

its not just resources, if you import people of a radically different culture you will import that culture .

I find it amazingly funny that you have left wing people pushing the immigration of people in favour of the patriarchy or FGM

god they are such idiots .

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 13 Sep 2015, 10:41

Best speech since Michael Foot's day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=y ... pp=desktop
#Corbyn #Refuggees

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 13 Sep 2015, 12:03

biffvernon wrote:Best speech since Michael Foot's day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=y ... pp=desktop
#Corbyn #Refuggees

best speech since Micheal foot, come on you just post to cheer me up

thanks biff

AutomaticEarth · Post by **AutomaticEarth** » 13 Sep 2015, 14:20

https://www.facebook.com/uk.immigration.2015

These migrants have some very expensive mobile phones. I thought that they were poor and had lost everything?

AutomaticEarth · Post by **AutomaticEarth** » 13 Sep 2015, 14:39

Al Jazeera showing an article about Syrian refugees complaining about the difficulties living in Uruguay. They are saying things are expensive. Well, they can always go back to Syria

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 13 Sep 2015, 16:37

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 98880.html

Post by **clv101** » 13 Sep 2015, 16:37

AutomaticEarth wrote:https://www.facebook.com/uk.immigration.2015

These migrants have some very expensive mobile phones. I thought that they were poor and had lost everything?

What give you that idea? A year ago many were the middle class of a middle income country. Of course they had fancy phones. They likely also had a few thousand euros to pay the people traffickers. That doesn't mean they aren't poor having lost everything today.

AutomaticEarth · Post by **AutomaticEarth** » 13 Sep 2015, 18:15

Germany is introducing border controls...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34239674

AutomaticEarth · Post by **AutomaticEarth** » 13 Sep 2015, 20:28

clv101 wrote:
AutomaticEarth wrote:https://www.facebook.com/uk.immigration.2015

These migrants have some very expensive mobile phones. I thought that they were poor and had lost everything?
What give you that idea? A year ago many were the middle class of a middle income country. Of course they had fancy phones. They likely also had a few thousand euros to pay the people traffickers. That doesn't mean they aren't poor having lost everything today.

I was just pointing out that some of the migrants had some very expensive mobile phones. I would have thought that some of the Gulf states (which are closer geographically) would have been able to take these migrants in? It would save them the trouble of going to people traffickers, which doesn't guarantee a successful outcome.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 13 Sep 2015, 20:49

Of course they are able, but equally of course, they are not willing. Funny place the Gulf States.

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 13 Sep 2015, 23:33

They are not willing because they want a more islamic europe and people like yourself will give it to them. They wont take in muslims because they want you to take them in, then they will pay for radical mosques to finish you off

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 14 Sep 2015, 05:24

This article from The New Statesman shows why Saudi Arabia is so keen to build mosques for Germany and anywhere else that will take them. We would be better off paying for them to be built ourselves.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 14 Sep 2015, 09:48

kenneal - lagger wrote:This article from The New Statesman shows why Saudi Arabia is so keen to build mosques for Germany and anywhere else that will take them. We would be better off paying for them to be built ourselves.

We should not be building ANY more Mosques ANYWHERE in this country. I will be clear here and state that I have an antipathy towards any form of organised religion. Christianity being no exception. However, to the extent that we have historically separated church and state in this country and have, to a large extent, tamed the beast of Christianity such that is now largely a reflection of our secular values as opposed to being a cultural driver, I am content that we allow Christianity to continue to be our national religion. Islam, on the other hand, is utterly unreconstructed and shows absolutely no capacity whatsoever of being reconstructible any time soon. Consequently, it does not belong here and should never have been allowed a foothold in the first place.

Now, of course, I would like to be able to separate my attitude towards the religion of Islam from any attitude towards Muslims. But, for precisely the reason of having not being separated from a larger civic life, as happened with Christianity in the Enlightenment, it is impossible to separate the ideology of Islam from the cultural fact of being a Muslim because the vast majority of Muslims refuse to recognise such a distinction.

And so we are where we are. And where we are is not a good place.

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 14 Sep 2015, 13:08

http://www.infowars.com/report-migrants ... re-states/ migrants pretend to be christian

no surely people wouldnt lie

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religio ... Islam.html

Should we be concerned about importing millions of muslims

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09 ... -are-full/

labour mp damands we bring in migrants till we reach saturation point, doesnt matter that people will have to wait much longer to get hospital appointment . Well likely it wont to her but it will to the people who die in the que, who paid for the medicine shes giving away