Migrant watch (merged topic)

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 26 Aug 2015, 18:20

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/inde ... ugees.html

Wealthy gulf states agree to take zero refugees from syria while dumb europeans take millions of muslims into their homes .

Considering you have over a thousand year history of muslims trying to invade europe, and invading and being driven out over hundreds of years of war .

Where should these people go wouldnt they be better staying in somewhere like the gulf

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 26 Aug 2015, 20:21

There are times when I quite like Merkel.

Angela Merkel wrote:"I want to say once again, also in the face of what we unfortunately all had to experience here, that the humane and dignified treatment of every single person who comes to us is part of the self-image which represents Germany, and what we had to experience here is shameful and repulsive," she said.

"We must put all of our efforts into making clear there is no tolerance for people who question the dignity of others," Ms. Merkel said. "There is no tolerance for those who are not willing to help where legal and human help is required."

http://www.voanews.com/content/german-c ... 32711.html

And Melissa Fleming is brilliant.

The World at One ‏@BBCWorldatOne 7h7 hours ago
"We ask for humane treatment of people arriving at Europe's borders" UN's @melissarfleming on allegations of migrants being assaulted #wato

AutomaticEarth · Post by **AutomaticEarth** » 26 Aug 2015, 20:26

Meanwhile in South America.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-34063674

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 26 Aug 2015, 23:42

your amazing biff, the germans are showing they don't want this their puppet traitor leader is pushing these people on them, oh god this will end badly .

And you still don't get it, you think this idiot women is doing the right thing .

if the germans see where this is heading and turn what exactly will stop them, do you really want to see a nationalist germany

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 26 Aug 2015, 23:48

What would you do or what could the west do if you have a nationalist germany, they failed the last time .

Your playing with so much fire, it is like having a really mean dog getting him tame and poking him in the eye till he bites again.

And I said things like these riots would happen

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 27 Aug 2015, 00:05

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/20 ... m-seekers/ picture of a beheaded person in that story .

Interesting how you have the recent murder and claimed beheading in a store in sweden of a mother and her son by asylum seekers, and police are finding isis torture clips and clips of excutions on mobile phones .

Now I expect the silly biffs to get their way and this to happen a lot in places like germany and then as there always is there will be a reaction .

Your going to make the nazis on steroids

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 27 Aug 2015, 10:22

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/inde ... rmany.html

People not in organised groups just getting together to attack these camps, google have had to take down maps of the camps because people were using them to do the attacks, they have to use the army to push this on people .

And you honestly think this wont end badly http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34061532 Merkel being booed and called traitor to your people.

AutomaticEarth · Post by **AutomaticEarth** » 27 Aug 2015, 13:29

50 migrants found dead in a lorry in Austria....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 74464.html

Post by **clv101** » 27 Aug 2015, 20:55

AutomaticEarth wrote:50 migrants found dead in a lorry in Austria....

Migrants or refugees? Language is important.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 27 Aug 2015, 22:05

clv101 wrote:
AutomaticEarth wrote:50 migrants found dead in a lorry in Austria....
Migrants or refugees? Language is important.

Language also evolves, and this is a case where it is doing so right now. While there are still people who are clearly "migrants" and clearly "refugees", for an increasing proportion of the increasing number of people on the move, the distinction is irrelevant. The word "refugee" is directly connected to the concept of "crisis" - refugees are people who are fleeing from a localised and/or temporary situation. But as we all acknowledge, we are now seeing the emergence of a globalised and long-term deterioration in human living standards, for a whole host of interconnected reasons. Which is why these migrants/refugees are coming from so many different places and for so many different reasons.

In the end, the distinction won't matter at all. There will just be millions of people on the move, with little hope of ever wanting to go back to whereever it is they came from, and an ever-decreasing set of options in terms of where they can try to go.

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 28 Aug 2015, 04:42

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... lence.html france warns about attacks on airliners using shoulder launched missles, and that jihadis are bringing in ak47s into france, and that the attemped attack on the train was part of organisation of jihadis operating in france that attack could have killed hundreds of people .
The french army gets ready to try to win back parts of france after civil unrest .

I remember years ago a document about the british army planning for the same thing in the uk and they predicted insurrection .

http://www.infowars.com/france-prepares ... BMA7s.dpuf

A poll conducted last year found that a staggering 15 per cent of French citizens had a positive view of ISIS, with 27 per cent of people aged 18-24 expressing support for the terrorist outfit.

Many of the supporters are obviously drawn from France’s Muslim population of 5 million, which is the largest in the European Union per capita.

This could have been posted in our jihad watch thread but if you were germany would you want to go down further the road that the uk and france are on . The french and us are talking about reclaiming territory your basically talking about civil war . The french with FOURTH generation immigrants so that really really didnt work did it

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 28 Aug 2015, 07:26

clv101 wrote: Migrants or refugees? Language is important.

They could be both. 'Migrant' refers to somebody who moves; 'refugees' are a subset of migrants, the word implying a motive for the movement.

But more important is why we have created conditions in which these people could not catch a train like we can.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 28 Aug 2015, 10:26

biffvernon wrote:
clv101 wrote: Migrants or refugees? Language is important.
They could be both. 'Migrant' refers to somebody who moves; 'refugees' are a subset of migrants, the word implying a motive for the movement.

But more important is why we have created conditions in which these people could not catch a train like we can.

Who is "we"?

Don't try to entangle me in your guilt complex. I didn't create this situation.

What about any children I might have, who aren't even born yet? Are they also responsible for the plight of these people? Does their future security/prospects have to be ruined because of this responsibility?

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 28 Aug 2015, 11:45

if you get married and it doesnt work out you can get a divorce, and even thats pretty rubbish, and in most cases you would have been better off not getting married in the first place .

If you try to marry very different people's and that doesn't work out how do they get divorced because they do, that does actually happen all the time .

Now sometimes you can do that peacefully but thats really rare, what generally happens is you have war or genocide.

Having a train from afghanistan sounds wonderful only thing is the people your importing are not toys, they do not need to conform to what you want .

They may think great we will go there and live as WE want, and make the idiots that let us in conform to us .

Set up that train and you will be sure to have the uk ruled by shariah, and the only thing that would stop that happening is people fighting them with guns

3rdRock · Post by **3rdRock** » 28 Aug 2015, 14:29

biffvernon wrote:
clv101 wrote: Migrants or refugees? Language is important.
They could be both. 'Migrant' refers to somebody who moves; 'refugees' are a subset of migrants, the word implying a motive for the movement.

+1. Does anyone else remember a prophetic BBC film made by David Wheatley in 1990?

'The March - We are poor because you are rich'.

Well worth watching - while you still have a chance.

This film has been withdrawn - no VHS or DVD is currently available even though this was one of the most expensive films ever made by the BBC.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BW83sHDCpc