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If there is no wall there can be no loophole.
Natalie Bennett - Green Party Leader wrote:Utterly indefensible .. inhumane and degrading treatment
http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analy ... wers-story

It's what makes some of us ashamed to be British.
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biffvernon wrote:If there is no wall there can be no loophole.
Very true. The choice is between being quite rigid about rules or having no wall.
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Some say rules are for breaking but I'll go for breaking the wall.
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biffvernon wrote:Some say rules are for breaking but I'll go for breaking the wall.
And thankfully, both for yourself and everybody else in the UK, you and people like you have no chance at all of implementing the policies you advocate from your entirely imaginary moral high ground.

Your statement above has nothing to do with the real world or the fate of any real people. It is a statement about your own puffed-up ego and a sense of moral superiority based on failure to face up to reality.

But you are doing real damage nevertheless. To the green movement, which people like you are turning into a joke.

When you make these posts, I can only assume it makes you feel warm inside - that you are a good person, standing up for good principles, against a hostile response from bad people.

When other people read them, they either nauseated by it (e.g. most people on this board) or amused by the stupidity and pleased by the likely consequences on general opinion (J2M).
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Naomi Klein wrote:Climate denial, she said, is pervasive in English-speaking countries such as Australia, Canada, the U.S. and the UK because of a "colonial settler mentality. Countries founded on a powerful frontier mentality have this idea of limitless nature that can be endlessly extracted. Climate change is threatening to that because there are limits and you have to respect those limits. Where that frontier narrative is strongest is where denialism is strongest."
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/0 ... te-villain
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:shock: If this climate change thing is real biff, more migration or attempted migration and I am likely to be more right than ever. Forget your we are the world notions and dreams they have never existed and wont exist in a fight for existance .
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism ... d-britain/

Thats one of the effects of your immigration policys
"What causes more suffering in the world than the stupidity of the compassionate?"Friedrich Nietzsche

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Adam Hills, star of Channel 4's 'The Last Leg', has decided it's time for us to look at migrants as human beings, not swarms of benefit scroungers and Wi-Fi stealing cockroaches.

In this exceptional rant, he brought up a few case studies and even offered one of the migrants a spot on his show.

Or maybe put them in a tent with Mel and Sue and get them to make a few innuendos? That'll ensure the British public accept them.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/08 ... 02344.html
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Have you stopped to consider how bad things could go if everyone else is right and your wrong, old underground and little john are warning you for a reason you know .
"What causes more suffering in the world than the stupidity of the compassionate?"Friedrich Nietzsche

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biffvernon wrote:
Adam Hills, star of Channel 4's 'The Last Leg', has decided it's time for us to look at migrants as human beings, not swarms of benefit scroungers and Wi-Fi stealing cockroaches.

In this exceptional rant, he brought up a few case studies and even offered one of the migrants a spot on his show.

Or maybe put them in a tent with Mel and Sue and get them to make a few innuendos? That'll ensure the British public accept them.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/08 ... 02344.html
Are you being deliberately stupid?

This has nothing to do with "how we look at them". They're people for f***'s sake. People who have fled from very troubled parts of the world.

This quote deliberately mis-states the opposition position, just like you do. It has nothing to do with "benefit scrounging". It doesn't matter whether these people intend to work or claim benefits. I'm damned sure they don't care. They'd bite your arm off for a chance at either.

I mean it is so f****** ridiculous. These people have come from places like Syria and Iraq, and the twat who wrote this article thinks they've come because they think the UK is an easy touch when it comes to claiming benefits????

For f*** sake. They've come because they are desperate, and the problem is that everybody left in the places they came from is also desperate.
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http://pamelageller.com/2015/08/muslim- ... lims.html/

Afghans and Somalis in the uk have 4 times as many kids as brits do, see old undercover and john and you need to wake up and you really only have two choices my kind of nationalism or islam .

Europe will either become more like north africa with isis chopping off heads daily and raping more non muslim kids than are already being raped by the jihais we have here now, or it goes nationalists and fights for its existance .

Building walls wont work because people have already made us swollow the deadly poison
"What causes more suffering in the world than the stupidity of the compassionate?"Friedrich Nietzsche

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jonny2mad wrote:http://pamelageller.com/2015/08/muslim- ... lims.html/

Afghans and Somalis in the uk have 4 times as many kids as brits do, see old undercover and john and you need to wake up and you really only have two choices my kind of nationalism or islam .
That's not one of your better arguments. It's called a "false dichotomy." :roll:
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Ellie Mae O'Hagan wrote:Mass migration is no ‘crisis’: it’s the new normal as the climate changes.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... ate-change
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What a crap article Biff. The climate hasn't changed in Yemen, Ethiopia and Somalia. They have just tripled their population in 50 years. A bit like the UK.
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