Is it really hard to fathom why many people despise the US?

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 31 Mar 2015, 14:14

biffvernon wrote:Federal authorities have granted permission to an American hunter to kill an endangered black rhino in Namibia

Very kind of the US authorities to allow this in a foreign country.

Hang on, I spotted another mistake: the article says a 'hunter'.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 09 Apr 2015, 16:40

emordnilap wrote:
emordnilap wrote:I knew it.

emordnilap wrote: I'm backing Jeb Bush for the next POTUS. Any other chancers?
Them damn' yankees are stir crazy.
The talk is Hil v Jeb. One is worse than the other.

When they say 'anyone can get to be president of the United States', they're not wrong. They let anyone in, no matter how unqualified or utterly moronic.

Now we have Rand Paul (with a name like that, let's hope he does a Clinton) who's obviously studied Sarah Palin.

On mountain top removal:

“I think whoever owns the property can do with the property as they wish”

“A lot of the land is quite desirable once it’s been flattened out.”

“I don’t think anybody’s going to be missing a hill or two here and there.”

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 09 Apr 2015, 17:52

On the rhino hunt you guys are looking past this part.

However, upon determining that the proceeds from the auction and subsequent hunt will go towards conservation efforts, the agency has given the go-ahead.

Now every creature is going to die sooner or later and if this rhino is trophy size it is probably past prime breeding age and is no longer needed in the gene pool. $350,000USD is a lot for a wrinkled old rhino skin. The rhino will not have died in vain.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 10 Apr 2015, 10:49

Which goes to show what a twisted, illogical and immoral world some people inhabit.

Shooters and their supporters. Poachers. Buyers.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 10 Apr 2015, 12:18

emordnilap wrote:Which goes to show what a twisted, illogical and immoral world some people inhabit.

Shooters and their supporters. Poachers. Buyers.

Would you care to explain how the early death of one rhino whose demise will pay for the protection of it's offspring is illogical or immoral.
Remember now there are no old age homes for rhinos or if there are the nurses look like lions and hyenas.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 15 Apr 2015, 10:24

Legitimising and glorifying killing animals for no reason whatsoever by shooters and their supporters. Give the money to conservation efforts and let them decide on the animal's fate. Either that or make sure the rhino and this so-called 'hunter' meet on equal terms. Besides, there are ways of raising money for conservation that don't involve killing. People will pay money to see these animals.

Hell, let's cull all women over child-bearing age while we're at it - they're doing jobs that unemployed young people could have.

This is your friend:

Shame the roles can't be reversed.

This rich white male's justification for his trophy-hunting is pure American spin, that profit can be made from fulfilling immature, selfish urges.

An animal may be past its reproductive age but that doesn't mean it's useless. Animals maintain their environment (when we leave them alone) - one useful word is symbiosis, something very few humans understand.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 15 Apr 2015, 10:26

More US bullshit contained here.

Hilary Clinton wrote:“We need to fix our dysfunctional political system and get unaccountable money out of it once and for all – even if that takes a constitutional amendment,” she said.

Nice one, Hil. And Yanks can be irrational enough to believe you.

Maybe she could explain her Saudi funding.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 15 Apr 2015, 10:39

vtsnowedin wrote:
emordnilap wrote: It seems very sad that this is possibly (seen as) one of Obama's few achievements. So much hope, so much bullshit.
Your on to something.

Obama taking Cuba off terrorism list

...but of course Rubio, Florida's presidential hopeful, said:

I think sends a chilling message to our enemies abroad that this White House is no longer serious about calling terrorism by its proper name.

And America has Russia surrounded! Oh, the irony. What a mixed-up, muddled-up, shook-up world US despots inhabit.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 15 Apr 2015, 11:05

emordnilap wrote:More US bullshit contained here.

Hilary Clinton wrote:“We need to fix our dysfunctional political system and get unaccountable money out of it once and for all – even if that takes a constitutional amendment,” she said.
Nice one, Hil. And Yanks can be irrational enough to believe you.

Maybe she could explain her Saudi funding.

That one is pretty rich considering that she is planning on raising up to two BILLION dollars for her campaign.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 15 Apr 2015, 11:08

emordnilap wrote:Legitimising and glorifying killing animals for no reason whatsoever by shooters and their supporters. ....
....
- one useful word is symbiosis, something very few humans understand.

I'm sure it is pointless to debate hunting ethics with you further. So I'll let it rest and eat my venison steak and eggs for breakfast.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 17 Apr 2015, 02:33

Venison eggs??

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 17 Apr 2015, 11:18

kenneal - lagger wrote:Venison eggs??

No silly, venison steak and eggs with pan fried potatoes and onions on the side..

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 20 Apr 2015, 20:51

Lots of what are known as "progressive" people in the USA (they daren't call themselves "left-of centre" or anything like that) are following the adventures of my alter ego on Twitter. They post-up the most incredible stuff, and it's about their own country. My heart, erratic and ramshackle though it may be, goes out to them.

In spite of all the stupidity that surrounds them, these guys are out there in their tiny numbers fighting the good fight. If it does them any good (it might not, because we're all farrners after all!), we should cheer them on.

peaceful_life · Post by **peaceful_life** » 20 Apr 2015, 23:16

vtsnowedin wrote:
emordnilap wrote:Which goes to show what a twisted, illogical and immoral world some people inhabit.

Shooters and their supporters. Poachers. Buyers.
Would you care to explain how the early death of one rhino whose demise will pay for the protection of it's offspring is illogical or immoral.
Remember now there are no old age homes for rhinos or if there are the nurses look like lions and hyenas.

Money, can't buy an ecosystem, can you see the ecological logic in that?

ps..prompted buy that picture, I thought I'd post these for you.

Long version, skip to 16 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7ssc8JLPfE

peaceful_life · Post by **peaceful_life** » 20 Apr 2015, 23:17

emordnilap wrote:Legitimising and glorifying killing animals for no reason whatsoever by shooters and their supporters. Give the money to conservation efforts and let them decide on the animal's fate. Either that or make sure the rhino and this so-called 'hunter' meet on equal terms. Besides, there are ways of raising money for conservation that don't involve killing. People will pay money to see these animals.

Hell, let's cull all women over child-bearing age while we're at it - they're doing jobs that unemployed young people could have.

This is your friend:

Shame the roles can't be reversed.

This rich white male's justification for his trophy-hunting is pure American spin, that profit can be made from fulfilling immature, selfish urges.

An animal may be past its reproductive age but that doesn't mean it's useless. Animals maintain their environment (when we leave them alone) - one useful word is symbiosis, something very few humans understand.

That's never a real photo........is it?