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What can we do to change the minds of decision makers and people in general to actually do something about preparing for the forthcoming economic/energy crises (the ones after this one!)?

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A miner in the States, digging down about 200 feet, found buried copper cable, so the Americans claimed they had phone technology first.

A Russian miner, down about 1,000 feet, uncovered some fibre optic cable, thus proving the Russians had digital communications long before the Americans.

A Kerry miner, about three miles down, found nothing, proving that the ancient Irish used mobile phones.
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emordnilap wrote:A miner in the States, digging down about 200 feet, found buried copper cable, so the Americans claimed they had phone technology first.

A Russian miner, down about 1,000 feet, uncovered some fibre optic cable, thus proving the Russians had digital communications long before the Americans.

A Kerry miner, about three miles down, found nothing, proving that the ancient Irish used mobile phones.

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biffvernon wrote:They'll not catch me:


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You'd have to be very trusting of the local operator with one of those!! They could listen in to any conversation they wanted.
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Not from Snowden, but from files in the Tripoli

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... ial-papers

MI5 cooperated extensively with rendition and evidence from torture used in secret in UK trials, and to justify detention orders.

As directed by Blair, of course.
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Snowden "One of Most Admired Men in Germany"
Snowden, who came after former West German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt, the Dalai Lama and theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking, has received positive recognition in Germany for his revelations about NSA surveillance. He also placed sixth among Russians and eighth among Danes.
Mind you, mass murderer Barack Obama is in that top ten, so take it with a ton of salt.
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The guardian reports that police forces in several counties have been contacting news agents asking for the names of people who bought the special edition of the Charlie hebdo magazine. "To offer advice about potential terrorist attacks".
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On a related note, in future the right to protest in London is restricted to the rich.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... yond-price

No dosh? You're nicked.
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PS_RalphW wrote:On a related note, in future the right to protest in London is restricted to the rich.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... yond-price

No dosh? You're nicked.
This is truly outrageous. Those protesters are already paying the police.
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Privacy International
NSA then shares information with the UK Government's intelligence agency GCHQ by default. A recent court ruling found that this sharing was unlawful. But no one could find out if their records were collected and then illegally shared between these two agencies… until now
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Now you can ask the government to tell you if they have been illegally spying on you.

https://www.privacyinternational.org/in ... sign&sid=1

Of course they will answer truthfully :)

However, the more people who ask, the more embarrassing their lies will be.

Anyway, if they hadn't noticed me before , they will have noticed I exist now.
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Strange how Privacy International hasn't been mentioned before Ralph. Well, not since the post above yours. :wink:
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So... help them compile a list of people who worry about being spied on and "have something to hide"?
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"What is the era in which we cannot be shocked?" asks Russell Brand, in one of his loony but pointed Trews vids. "And now they want to own our privacy."

I have to admit, nothing shocks me and I don't think ever has. But that's not the point. We are being bludgeoned into accepting corporate and political control of our lives as the new normal.
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“Because our intelligence agencies collect a vast amount of data but only see and read a small fraction. That does not constitute mass surveillance”.
This is from GCHQ. They are quite clearly pathologically loopy.
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Next in the Obama regime's paranoia...CISA
If passed into law, CISA would implement further protections for companies to gather threat-related data from their customers and allow them to share that information directly with federal intelligence agencies, including the National Security Agency.
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