General Election May 2015

AutomaticEarth · Post by **AutomaticEarth** » 08 Feb 2015, 19:08

biffvernon wrote:
AutomaticEarth wrote:get a Scottish vote over English affairs,'
What's not to like? The Scots seem to understand things better than the English.

Nothing wrong with that, as long as I/we get get to vote on their affairs also.

AutomaticEarth · Post by **AutomaticEarth** » 08 Feb 2015, 19:16

OrraLoon wrote:
AutomaticEarth wrote:Agree, but I still cannot vote for them.

In addition, Labour backing up the SNP might well fail.

Also, an SNP / Labour coalition will likely fail. Amazingly, the Tories are not making much noise about this. If Cameron had any sense, he could say:

'Vote Labour, get a Scottish vote over English affairs,'

Btw I am not anti-Scottish at all.
Actually, I wonder if we might need to look at this in another way.
There might be an invisible Coalition of the Willing (for a second election):
Con, SNP, Green, Plaid, UKIP?
and a
Coalition of the "Frit": LibDems, Labour
(LibDems are presumed to have taken an almighty beating. Labour are presumed to have acquainted Ed with a red-hot poker and are needing a year to find and 'market' a new leader.)
Could be a few interesting pirouettes and feints. Somehow I think that the attitude and long experience of the Tories might be the key in deciding whether we get Election 2.0.

Good points - totally agree that we could be in for a 2nd General Election. Neither side (!) looks like they could command a coalition. I'd say that SNP will dominate Scottish votes and down here Labour and LimpDumbs might try out a coalition when Cameron and Ferage give up on Election 1.0.

Tarrel · Post by **Tarrel** » 08 Feb 2015, 20:19

The "more mature" amongst us will remember the 70's; a period of political instability in which it was rare for a parliament to run its full term and minority government was the norm. Maybe we're heading back to that situation.

Perversely, although it was more difficult for a government to pursue its legislative programme in those circumstances, maybe it made for better democracy. A weakness was the lack of richness in the mix and diversity of parties back then. It was pretty much a case of who the Liberals would side with in a vote. Things could be very different this time, with a potentially good mix of parties representing specific interests, such as geographical, green and relationship with Europe, etc.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 10 Feb 2015, 11:06

Tarrel wrote:Perversely, although it was more difficult for a government to pursue its legislative programme in those circumstances, maybe it made for better democracy.

Moot point but of course the narrative has shifted; all parties have moved to the right.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 10 Feb 2015, 13:22

Except the Green Party.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2015

When I did it I got all the answers right so am in the far bottom left grid square.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 10 Feb 2015, 14:28

biffvernon wrote:Except the Green Party.

They're a bit young and had too few electoral successes to say that for definite. We'll see. The trend for the acceptable narrative is rightwards.

biffvernon wrote:When I did it I got all the answers right so am in the far bottom left grid square.

Getting crowded here.

nexus · Post by **nexus** » 10 Feb 2015, 15:01

When I did it I got all the answers right so am in the far bottom left grid square

Me too

fuzzy · Post by **fuzzy** » 10 Feb 2015, 15:26

The green party wants a surplus of workers to requirements in the UK, how does this represent a government trying to minimise inequality and improve life for it's citizens through planning and regulation? Answer - it doesn't. It's just the same agenda since the Normans arrived.

AutomaticEarth · Post by **AutomaticEarth** » 10 Feb 2015, 16:41

Hmmm......

Surprising result. I'm actually a lilly-livered Left Libertarian

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 10 Feb 2015, 16:42

AutomaticEarth wrote:Hmmm......

Surprising result. I'm actually a lilly-livered Left Libertarian

Donny tell me you're from Liverpool too?

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 10 Feb 2015, 16:48

biffvernon wrote:

I'm beginning to suspect this a little. Look at Sinn Féin here and Sinn Fein in the Irish elections of 2011.

OK, a different country but they are the same party; it's the same all-Ireland party. Presumably they are the same questions. Can someone tell me why the different positions?

AutomaticEarth · Post by **AutomaticEarth** » 10 Feb 2015, 17:08

emordnilap wrote:
AutomaticEarth wrote:Hmmm......

Surprising result. I'm actually a lilly-livered Left Libertarian
Donny tell me you're from Liverpool too?

nah - from Essex - spiritual home of old Tories / now UKIP (not that I'm endorsing either)

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 10 Feb 2015, 17:22

fuzzy wrote:The green party wants a surplus of workers to requirements in the UK, ...

This means a low wage economy and the continued importation of labour to the disadvantage of people now living here.

Tarrel · Post by **Tarrel** » 10 Feb 2015, 17:46

Good fun. I also came out bottom left. However, after taking the test again and manipulating the answers carefully, I managed to get myself into the very top-right small grid square!

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 10 Feb 2015, 18:58

Well of course you have to answer honestly.