What can we do to change the minds of decision makers and people in general to actually do something about preparing for the forthcoming economic/energy crises (the ones after this one!)?
Prime Minister David Cameron has said he does not want to take part in the planned debates unless the Green Party are also included.
That after Ofcom dissed the greens. I think Cameron wants to dilute the UKIP bandwagon.
Apart from the Greens, dismissed as utopians or as simply unrealistic, none of the 'leaders' would actually say anything. It would end up a Green-bashing debacle. Have a listen to Farage. Yes, we all know where he stands on issues but he never actually says anything; likewise Cameron.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
I think the Ofcom ruling on the Greens is reasonable. I can't see how anyone can rank the Greens ahead of LD or UKIP, they are the 5th national party. Whether or some kind of 'cutoff' should be done between 4th and 5th is another question though.
Cameron's statement makes sense - he'd rather the debates simply didn't happen. If they do happen, having the Greens along will be to his relative advantage the they are sure to appeal more to otherwise LAB and LD voters.
clv101 wrote:I think the Ofcom ruling on the Greens is reasonable. I can't see how anyone can rank the Greens ahead of LD or UKIP, they are the 5th national party. Whether or some kind of 'cutoff' should be done between 4th and 5th is another question though.
Cameron's statement makes sense - he'd rather the debates simply didn't happen. If they do happen, having the Greens along will be to his relative advantage the they are sure to appeal more to otherwise LAB and LD voters.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
The past, particularly 2010, is given too much weighting. For example in the three constituencies included in the area covered by East Lincolnshire Green Party, we fielded no candidates, but in 2015 we have candidates in all three constituencies. In 2010 nobody had the opportunity to vote Green but in 2015 everybody does.
Almost dead. There are a few seats in England where the only possible result is tory or libdem victory, and in those seats, regardless of how let down libdem voters feel, they are faced with a choice of voting libdem or watching a tory MP take the seat. And given that we are probably heading for another hung parliament, every seat matters.
I'd bet my house they will not be completely wiped out, although they may be reduced to 15 seats.
Libdems on 11 in Scotland at the moment. Alastair Carmichael and Charlie Kennedy should survive but they'll be lucky to get more than 1-2 others. Tories could sneak through in W. Aberdeenshire (Royal Deeside) and Roxburgh &c (Borders). (Actually there are 4-5 mainly Borders and Edinburgh seats where someone could win with less than 30%.) Still expect most to fall to the SNP.
Give me a place to stand on and I will move the Earth.
The Green party today overtook UKIP the on number of paid-up members. After a surge of 2,000 new members in a single day, the Greens UK-wide now have 43,829 members, 2,000 more than UKIP, and are set to overtake the LibDems within days.
This is nice:
Back in April 2014 the LibDems reported a "membership surge" with numbers rising by about 1,000 a year - but now the Greens have gained twice as many members in a single day.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
