Environmental refugees

3rdRock · Post by **3rdRock** » 28 Sep 2014, 12:41

An LA home is 40 times more expensive than one in Detroit. But for how long?

Economics professor Matthew E Kahn warns of the possible risks to property and quality of life of disruptive environmental changes.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... es-weather

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 28 Sep 2014, 21:00

I heard some quite high-up type being a complete idiot and saying that they don't count as "refugees" (climate or otherwise) unless they cross a country border. Obviously never heard of "internal refugees".

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 29 Sep 2014, 02:35

The problem with climate change is that we do not know how it will affect any given location in the long term. Detroit, being in the centre of the continent, already experiences high summer temperatures and very low winter temperatures while, LA being on the coast has its temperatures mitigated by the adjacent ocean. Climate change is forecast to cause more extreme temperatures which could make Detroit experience even higher highs and even lower lows which could make it untenable as a place to live while LA will always have the cooling effect of the ocean.

Just making a point! Matthew E Kahn is after all only an economist.

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 29 Sep 2014, 14:52

Yes, quite. Having bought our grapevine (because of Climate change) and then watched it snuff-it in a particularly cold winter (which was also an effect of climate change) I am now wary of any CC-based prediction other than "It'll happen, and it'll be unpredictable"...

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 05 Feb 2015, 15:46

Future environmental refugees: Floridians

I wouldn't worry about the rich ones though.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 06 Feb 2015, 05:05

Half the population will die in the next decade anyway!! Most of them are pensioners. Of course the ones left will be the poor, again!!

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 06 Feb 2015, 08:25

emordnilap wrote:Future environmental refugees: Floridians

Interesting bit of film. It's remarkable just how flat the place is. The water is about 4 inches deep over long stretches of roads. Lincolnshire is quite hilly by comparison.

The candy geology of Florida means one can't just build a sea wall. the water flows underneath and pops up behind you. So, yeah, don't buy land in Florida.