Israel wants the Palestinian Gas

raspberry-blower · Post by **raspberry-blower** » 18 Sep 2014, 21:23

An interactive map showing the destruction of Gaza

The true scale of the wanton carnage revealed

3rdRock · Post by **3rdRock** » 27 Sep 2014, 08:16

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has accused Israel of carrying out a "war of genocide" in Gaza in his speech at the UN General Assembly.

Mr Abbas said Israeli "war crimes" in Gaza should be punished, but stopped short of saying he would take the issue to the International Criminal Court.

His speech brought strong condemnation from Israel and from the US, which described it as "offensive".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29387079

Offensive? Pots and kettles methinks.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 27 Sep 2014, 08:19

I thought the whole point of the IS/Iraq crisis was stop us talking about Palestine.

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 27 Sep 2014, 15:08

No, it's to stop us talking about Unemployment. But some of us have got enough time on our hands to talk about both. Because we've no work to do...

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 02 Oct 2014, 15:25

An 'interesting' possible development: part of Sinai offered to Gaza?

It is noticeable that Israel’s large-scale operations attacking Gaza – in the winter of 2008-09, 2012 and again this year – started shortly after Israel and the US, according to Asharq al-Awsat, began turning the screws on Mubarak to concede part of Sinai.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 02 Oct 2014, 19:19

Go live in the desert!

Why doesn't Israel move into the middle of the desert and leave Palestine to the Palestinians?

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 02 Oct 2014, 20:24

Erm...who's living there at the moment?

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 02 Oct 2014, 20:53

Nobody - it's a desert.

http://goo.gl/maps/ejQe6

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 02 Oct 2014, 21:43

I bet there's somebody there. And I bet that if someone else like the Palestinians or the Israelis moves in, the original someones will object and then each have 10 children, then in a couple of decades' time we'll be back to square one...

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 02 Oct 2014, 22:18

Yes, I expect you're right. Funny ole world.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » 02 Oct 2014, 22:26

From The Gray Prince by Jack Vance

"Except for a few special cases, title to every parcel of real property derives from an act of violence, more or less remote, and ownership is only as valid as the strength and will required to maintain it. This is the lesson of history, whether you like it or not.”

Uncomfortable quote but probably true.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 03 Oct 2014, 10:42

biffvernon wrote:Go live in the desert!

Why doesn't Israel move into the middle of the desert and leave Palestine to the Palestinians?

Precisely. It's rich, innit?

Sad to say, the alternative that the Zionists have in store is worse.

(Before I typed the last 'e' in 'worse', the autocorrect suggested 'wars'.

)

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 03 Oct 2014, 10:43

Snail wrote:From The Gray Prince by Jack Vance
"Except for a few special cases, title to every parcel of real property derives from an act of violence, more or less remote, and ownership is only as valid as the strength and will required to maintain it. This is the lesson of history, whether you like it or not.”
Uncomfortable quote but probably true.

Not probably. Property is violence.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 16 Oct 2014, 12:34

UK lawmakers vote to recognise Palestinian state

“That this House believes that the Government should recognise the state of Palestine alongside the state of Israel as a contribution to securing a negotiated two-state solution.”

Did any significant UK news source report this?

Typically, Cameron abstained from the vote, the wassock.

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 16 Oct 2014, 12:53

Most Tories simply stayed away from the house.

Presumably to emphasize the point of how powerless backbenchers are at putting forward bills.

The vote is unfortunately entirely symbolic and will be totally ignored by the establishment.

It was reported on R4 parliamentary report at length.