That's not right either. If you are trying to make out that new labour, who presided over much of this shit has any kind of real connection to the left, then you need to do some more political reading. New labour are just as wedded to the neo-con agenda as the Tories. They just like to tell you how much they feel your pain while they shaft you. At least the Tories do it with a honest sneer. As for why there was such a large immigration policy in the first place, again this was never a left agenda. It was, and always has been, the agenda of the neo-con right in order to keep pay and conditions down whilst simultaneously keeping the "perpetual growth" economic model afloat. They have cleverly packaged it in liberal clothes, however, such that the liberal cosmopolitan left have tied themselves up on knots trying not to appear racist by objecting to the policies. Thus, allowing such policies to continue unabated. Meanwhile, having being all but emasculated in any area of macro economic policy which will make an actual damned difference to the poor and dispossessed, the surviving rump of the liberal left transformed themselves into social micro managers with a penchant for f***ing about with the minutiae of the language such that they could delude themselves that they were actually doing something useful instead of what they have been doing, which is wasting f***ing oxygen by hanging around. You want someone to blame for the situation in Rotherham and other places like it? Your biggest enemy is massive business concerns who have ensured successive government policies of whatever political stripe have maintained an immigration policy of getting in cheap labour from culturally backwards nations. This was then further exacerbated by politically correct, right-on metropolitan lefties who didn't want to appear racist. And you need to accept, most Muslims are not like these pieces of shit in Rotherham. But, at the same time, it simply cannot be denied that a minority of them are. A minority that is far bigger, by religion/ethnicity than is the case for the longer term indigenous anglo-saxon culture. I do accept that.jonny2mad wrote:I will explain to you again the guilty men are not just the rapists they are the left wing right on scum that shielded them for decades .Shortfall wrote:I don't need you or that other bigoted arsewipe to draw my attention to topical news items, shocking as they are.snow hope wrote: Well if you can't read what's the point in being on here?
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I still fail to see the connection between the evil deeds of the few and a major swing to the nationalistic, right wing and racist political views which we are now being subjected to on a daily basis.
Only the privileged 1% will ultimately gain from this deliberate attempt to divide and rule. Are you one of them?
That researcher who when she said hey Asian men are raping children in well organised gangs and got sent on a diversity course found 270 girls in 2001 but there have been at least 1400 girls found thats 1130 children who got raped because your pals covered it up .
Now that wasn't nick griffin who you hate who has been speaking out on the subject for decades who was those kids only friend the only one who cared about them . its ken livingston and labour party mps and labour council members.
You had a women labour mp who had parents and children coming to her asking for help and when she brought the subject up was told to shut up by top people in the labour party ken livingstons the ex mayor of london .
You people have brought these rapists here you brought their culture here, thats not the fault of the BNP or the EDL or UKIP .
Those kids were raped and abused because of the british left .
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Red ken livingston is old labour most of the maddest pc people are far left marxists, most of the strongest supporters of antifa or unite against fascism I've met have been far left .
New labour brought in millions more people from the third world to rig the vote but they were just following a line that the left has followed for years .
The conservatives are not much different, As I say the only people who have clean hands in this rotherham story are to the right of the conservatives they neither wanted the immigration and they spoke out about what was happening .
There isnt a group on the left that fought mass immigration or that stood up for these children .
In fact they have consistantly fought the people who would have stopped this from happening .
New labour brought in millions more people from the third world to rig the vote but they were just following a line that the left has followed for years .
The conservatives are not much different, As I say the only people who have clean hands in this rotherham story are to the right of the conservatives they neither wanted the immigration and they spoke out about what was happening .
There isnt a group on the left that fought mass immigration or that stood up for these children .
In fact they have consistantly fought the people who would have stopped this from happening .
"What causes more suffering in the world than the stupidity of the compassionate?"Friedrich Nietzsche
optimism is cowardice oswald spengler
optimism is cowardice oswald spengler
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She says we need a jonathan swift well swift would be jailed for writing I imagine today if he wrote what he would like to write .
The fact is to the left white people are valued less than non white people, white children didnt matter to people like ken livingston, if they had brown faces yes then they would have mattered .
They told youth workers to shut up because of community cohesion, dont say that we have a industrial style abuse of little white girls going on by asian men
Well maybe if you had less cohesion it would be better, it certainly would have been better for those 1400 little girls who got repeatedly raped .
If this had been happening in the third world it wouldnt have happened because the majority community would have stopped it, 100 years ago it wouldnt have happened here
A hundred years ago if the state didnt stop them there would have been violence and this community where you have labour party mps now saying theres a culture of covering up for each other, would have been attacked and guilty men caught.
As far as I can see thats the only thing that would stop such a community from covering up child rapists, good intentions and hoping they would do the right thing didnt work fear of punishment may well .
She says we need a jonathan swift well swift would be jailed for writing I imagine today if he wrote what he would like to write .
The fact is to the left white people are valued less than non white people, white children didnt matter to people like ken livingston, if they had brown faces yes then they would have mattered .
They told youth workers to shut up because of community cohesion, dont say that we have a industrial style abuse of little white girls going on by asian men
Well maybe if you had less cohesion it would be better, it certainly would have been better for those 1400 little girls who got repeatedly raped .
If this had been happening in the third world it wouldnt have happened because the majority community would have stopped it, 100 years ago it wouldnt have happened here
A hundred years ago if the state didnt stop them there would have been violence and this community where you have labour party mps now saying theres a culture of covering up for each other, would have been attacked and guilty men caught.
As far as I can see thats the only thing that would stop such a community from covering up child rapists, good intentions and hoping they would do the right thing didnt work fear of punishment may well .
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"What causes more suffering in the world than the stupidity of the compassionate?"Friedrich Nietzsche
optimism is cowardice oswald spengler
optimism is cowardice oswald spengler
What our grandfathers would think of us I don't know my grandfather shot a man for not taking his hat off to my grandmother, honestly I don't believe they would think we had sunk so low so fast.
And you have the cheek to worry about the rise of the far right, and so does the damn home office who with their damn diversity training and multi-cultural claptrap caused this .
And you have the cheek to worry about the rise of the far right, and so does the damn home office who with their damn diversity training and multi-cultural claptrap caused this .
"What causes more suffering in the world than the stupidity of the compassionate?"Friedrich Nietzsche
optimism is cowardice oswald spengler
optimism is cowardice oswald spengler
The psychopath wouldnt have done what most parents of these children did or what their community's did and continues to do .
One 11-year-old known as Child H told police that she and another girl had been sexually assaulted by grown men. Nothing was done. When she was 12, Child H was found in the back of a taxi with a man who had indecent pictures of her on his phone. Despite the full co-operation of her father, who insisted his daughter was being abused, police failed to act. Four months later, Child H was found in a house alone with a group of Pakistani men. What did the police do? They arrested the child for being drunk and disorderly and ignored her abusers
The thing is we have a nation of mice, I've seen this myself most people are physical cowards Ive seen a women being kicked in the head on a busy street in daylight and people doing nothing .
So no wonder when this "father" comes up against thugs he doesn't do anything except appeal to a police force that wont do anythinge either because of community cohesion.
If you have sheep or placid lambs they are going to get preyed upon,
This country at one time people used to fight duels it was far more violent but the good thing about that is the people were not mice
One 11-year-old known as Child H told police that she and another girl had been sexually assaulted by grown men. Nothing was done. When she was 12, Child H was found in the back of a taxi with a man who had indecent pictures of her on his phone. Despite the full co-operation of her father, who insisted his daughter was being abused, police failed to act. Four months later, Child H was found in a house alone with a group of Pakistani men. What did the police do? They arrested the child for being drunk and disorderly and ignored her abusers
The thing is we have a nation of mice, I've seen this myself most people are physical cowards Ive seen a women being kicked in the head on a busy street in daylight and people doing nothing .
So no wonder when this "father" comes up against thugs he doesn't do anything except appeal to a police force that wont do anythinge either because of community cohesion.
If you have sheep or placid lambs they are going to get preyed upon,
This country at one time people used to fight duels it was far more violent but the good thing about that is the people were not mice
"What causes more suffering in the world than the stupidity of the compassionate?"Friedrich Nietzsche
optimism is cowardice oswald spengler
optimism is cowardice oswald spengler
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No it was a saturday afternoon I'd just come out of the post office and this guy was stamping on what at a distance looked like another mans head but turned out to me a women .
But in Regards Rotherham if you have 1400 children being targeted and raped ok many wouldnt have familys but some would have had kin of some sort, why the hell wasn't there mass murder of these people doing the raping.
The police wont do anything the bastards arrested one of the children being abused . The mps cover it up or write character references for the rapists what do you as a individual do. My grandfather might have been a psycopath but thats the sort of person to deal with this sort of scum and he had seven sons . It certainly doesn't need people worried about the rise of the far right, hell that town needs more of the far right they were only people doing anything and that was too damn mild .
Even now they have hardly arrested any of these rapists the systems broken the police useless the council destroys evidence . Where these rapists come from they understand to a degree fueds they are tribal they see us for what we are weak cowards. If we were not like that there would be loads of them dead, there would be if this was happening in Afghanistan or Pakistan where they come from .
Ive said a lot the way to survive the future is to have a very mean extended family, by being xenophobic, it isnt just learning to fix bike's and grow carrots. if you have a collapse law and order will collapse its already collapsed for those children in Rotherham didnt protect them .
Clearly you dont have law and order in Rotherham,well if your white you dont, think about it mps and councillors tipping off these rape gangs to what refuge a child has run too, destroying reports and making threats to youth workers trying to stop it .
1400 girls about 50 school classes of girls raped 100 at least with babys from those rapes, being put on drugs and turned into whores, having petrol thrown over them and told if they dont do what these people want they would set them alight .
And whats the response to worry about the far right
But in Regards Rotherham if you have 1400 children being targeted and raped ok many wouldnt have familys but some would have had kin of some sort, why the hell wasn't there mass murder of these people doing the raping.
The police wont do anything the bastards arrested one of the children being abused . The mps cover it up or write character references for the rapists what do you as a individual do. My grandfather might have been a psycopath but thats the sort of person to deal with this sort of scum and he had seven sons . It certainly doesn't need people worried about the rise of the far right, hell that town needs more of the far right they were only people doing anything and that was too damn mild .
Even now they have hardly arrested any of these rapists the systems broken the police useless the council destroys evidence . Where these rapists come from they understand to a degree fueds they are tribal they see us for what we are weak cowards. If we were not like that there would be loads of them dead, there would be if this was happening in Afghanistan or Pakistan where they come from .
Ive said a lot the way to survive the future is to have a very mean extended family, by being xenophobic, it isnt just learning to fix bike's and grow carrots. if you have a collapse law and order will collapse its already collapsed for those children in Rotherham didnt protect them .
Clearly you dont have law and order in Rotherham,well if your white you dont, think about it mps and councillors tipping off these rape gangs to what refuge a child has run too, destroying reports and making threats to youth workers trying to stop it .
1400 girls about 50 school classes of girls raped 100 at least with babys from those rapes, being put on drugs and turned into whores, having petrol thrown over them and told if they dont do what these people want they would set them alight .
And whats the response to worry about the far right
"What causes more suffering in the world than the stupidity of the compassionate?"Friedrich Nietzsche
optimism is cowardice oswald spengler
optimism is cowardice oswald spengler
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That's a load of twaddle, Steve. My childhood best friend left school and got an apprenticeship at a local factory which was all white employees. He had to join the union closed shop, as was the case in those days (freedom of speech and association???) but he and his fellow union members were ultra right racists in their attitudes and supported, insisted on, the overt colour bar in the factory. The union at national level and the Labour Party, however, supported immigration and racial equality which always tickled me as most of their supporters were closer to the BNP in their attitudes. The Left has always supported immigration in this country and Gordon Brown's support of it is just a continuation.stevecook172001 wrote: It was, and always has been, the agenda of the neo-con right in order to keep pay and conditions down whilst simultaneously keeping the "perpetual growth" economic model afloat
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The "left" you talk about I don't recognise as left. They are just the apologetic, hand-wringing wing of the capitalist camp. In the past, for me, voting for labour has always been a bit like wiping your arse when you go for a shit. It's never very pleasant but the alternatives are worse.kenneal - lagger wrote:That's a load of twaddle, Steve. My childhood best friend left school and got an apprenticeship at a local factory which was all white employees. He had to join the union closed shop, as was the case in those days (freedom of speech and association???) but he and his fellow union members were ultra right racists in their attitudes and supported, insisted on, the overt colour bar in the factory. The union at national level and the Labour Party, however, supported immigration and racial equality which always tickled me as most of their supporters were closer to the BNP in their attitudes. The Left has always supported immigration in this country and Gordon Brown's support of it is just a continuation.stevecook172001 wrote: It was, and always has been, the agenda of the neo-con right in order to keep pay and conditions down whilst simultaneously keeping the "perpetual growth" economic model afloat
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I've found the rise of the right to be quite refreshing, as none of the other big 3 parties seem to differ much. They all seem to waffle on about how good multicultural Britain is and how much they feel the pain of the working classes; it's all very soft and fluffy and easy on the ears. I think multicultural Britain was a good idea that has been totally messed up by soppy w**kers who should have had the balls to make everyone coming in swear allegiance and share our way of thinking. I can't wait to see where Farage is going with his ideas as they might be worth voting for at some stage, and i just switch off when i hear all the 'he's just a racist nazi' and what have you. Good luck to him i say.
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Farage is just an old school Tory wanker who wants to have his cake and eat it. That is to say, he is fully wedded to the neo-con big-business agenda. he just doesn't want to accept that the way to keep profits high and pay and conditions down is by importing cheap labour from overseas. Instead, his answer would be to "free" us from what paltry protections are available via the European arrangement and so allow people like him to pay as little they want, impose whatever working conditions they like and basically return us to Victorian conditions for the working class of this country.
The problem is that the ruling class can accommodate the far right, even fascism if it has to. It cannot accommodate, however, the far left since this would lead to its destruction. So, following the near annihilation of the left and as corporate capitalism become ever untenable, our elites will allow for the democratic progress of right wing parties like Farage's since he is the kind of man they can work with. Meanwhile the proletariat (and the petit-bourgeoisie, once the MSM gives them cultural permission) faced with no other valid alternative to the mainstream neo-con parties, will vote for the likes of Farage, erroneously believing they are "sticking it to the man". People like you, I dare say, Mr Brightside.
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The problem is that the ruling class can accommodate the far right, even fascism if it has to. It cannot accommodate, however, the far left since this would lead to its destruction. So, following the near annihilation of the left and as corporate capitalism become ever untenable, our elites will allow for the democratic progress of right wing parties like Farage's since he is the kind of man they can work with. Meanwhile the proletariat (and the petit-bourgeoisie, once the MSM gives them cultural permission) faced with no other valid alternative to the mainstream neo-con parties, will vote for the likes of Farage, erroneously believing they are "sticking it to the man". People like you, I dare say, Mr Brightside.
Wake up.
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The biggest danger to the billionaire owners of global multinationals is the EU becoming powerful enough to clip their wings. Hence their support for UKIP and the brainwashing of the sheeple into anti-EU nationalism and foreigner scapegoating by the billionaire owned mass media.
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Be careful what you wish for.mr brightside wrote:I've found the rise of the right to be quite refreshing, as none of the other big 3 parties seem to differ much. They all seem to waffle on about how good multicultural Britain is and how much they feel the pain of the working classes; it's all very soft and fluffy and easy on the ears. I think multicultural Britain was a good idea that has been totally messed up by soppy w**kers who should have had the balls to make everyone coming in swear allegiance and share our way of thinking. I can't wait to see where Farage is going with his ideas as they might be worth voting for at some stage, and i just switch off when i hear all the 'he's just a racist nazi' and what have you. Good luck to him i say.