Scotland Watch

[emordnilap]

Er, what will What's-left-of-UK be called?

Little Britain?

[vtsnowedin]

Moonbat gets it. http://www.monbiot.com/2014/09/09/england-the-brave/

A passionate, perceptive article, well worth reading IMO.

The man obviously gets paid by the word but he has collected some good ones there.

[kenneal - lagger]

Er, what will What's-left-of-UK be called?

Little Britain?

I'm surprised that a Scot hasn't suggested "Britain" as with Scotland gone it's not so Great any more!!

[biffvernon]

I think, if we study the etymology, the FUK should not be allowed to use 'Britain' as that has always included at least the Celtic peoples of southern Scotland and all of Scotland since at least James was crowned King of Great Britain.

[emordnilap]

Er, what will What's-left-of-UK be called?

The 51st state would be appropriate.

[OrraLoon]

I wonder if Cameron, Clegg and Millipede going to Scotland will vote in a bigger Yes as the scots stick two fingers up to the Westminster machine? Bit like the UKIP vote not too long ago.
I'm just glad the Scots have the choice - I like democracy.

Nogel Farage of UKIP is also planning to come up on Saturday, to campaign for the union. This was planned before the Miliclegeron visit was announced.

None of them seem to have heard the expression; "When you're in a hole, stop digging!"

The UKIP rally in Glasgow is on Friday.
15,000 Orangemen, many from N.I., will be marching in Edinburgh on Saturday, from The Meadows to Leith Links. (Hibs are at home to Cowdenbeath.)

I'm still hoping for a Jeremy Clarkson Top Gear Scotland Special (“...haggis is refried sick...the Scottish 'Government' won't complain – they're all lying drunk under the table...)

Viva Rumpuk!

[biffvernon]

The dawn of a new Scotland http://transitionfreepress.org/2014/09/ ... -scotland/

[Mr. Fox]

Good article, Biff. I followed up the mention of 'Wee Ginger Dug'...

Most Scottish people have by now grasped the concept that independence is not like a fortnight’s holiday, and for those who have already decided to vote Yes, the foreveriness part of it is one of the major attractions. No more nuclear missiles, forever. No more Etonian Tory Prime Ministers, forever. No more Scottish Labour policies being determined by the need to chase after UKIP voters in Essex, forever. No more governments we didn’t vote for, forever – or at least until the arrival of our alien lizard overlords from Alpha Centauri in the 23rd century. It is true to say that Scotland will not be as prepared for this event as the rest of the UK, which will already have had centuries practising for life under alien lizard overlords, and will scarcely notice the difference. This may be the only positive case for the Union which has any credibility left. After two years of Project Fear, the mass emoting of the Westminster leaders was more than a little creepy, like a bouquet from a stalker.

Project Fear is of course continuing unabated, only more so as Westminster politicians frantically begged for favours from future members of the Lords. There was another blow again after all the banks announced that they are going to leave if we vote Yes because Scotland is the only country on the planet that can’t have any currency at all. And they’ll take all the cash machines, and your credit card, and those wee plastic bags for loose change and all the artificial plants. No one will ever get a mortgage ever again, and you’ll have to stay with your parents and you and your significant other will have to have sex really really quietly. But the annoying recorded message phone calls that tell you you might have a claim for PPI compensation will still disturb you when you’re trying to have very very quiet sex on a Saturday morning when your dad’s a bit hung over and your maw has popped out for the messages – only they’ll call twice as often. But that will only be a problem until your parents’ phone gets cut off because they can’t pay the bill because money won’t exist. And your maw won’t get any messages because there won’t be any money. Then we’ll all starve to death. And Davie’s heart will be broken, because that’s what happens when bankers fear they might have to operate in a country where they could be regulated.

Oh, and the oil companies are all leaving too. Even that wee petrol station on the way to Oban. There’s no oil left and Oban is far too volatile, and no one will want to buy any of the Scottish oil that there isn’t any left of anyway, on account of Scotland not being allowed to have any money at all. So that’s us telt then. It’s all so uncertain and there aren’t any answers to ridiculous questions. Yes, I am so treating you like a grown up. Just eat your cereal and vote No.

...glad I did!

http://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/

[UndercoverElephant]

The dawn of a new Scotland http://transitionfreepress.org/2014/09/ ... -scotland/

Yes, yes, yes!!!! All we have to do is vote YES and we'll be free of the shackles of London and can build the communist eco-utopia we've all been dreaming of!!!!



This referendum will be remembered, which ever way it goes, as an event where a lot of people who usually take no interest in politics decided to get involved for the first time. Unfortunately, if there is a yes vote, they are going to get a hard lesson in the realities of what you actually get instead of what the politicians promised you. Or in this case, what wishful-thinking non-politician nationalist twits promised you, as well as the politicians.

Anyone who confronts them with something resembling reality is dismissed as a "fear-monger". Who cares what currency we will use! We'll be FREEEEEEE! And the EU are bound to let us in, regardless of the fact that the Spanish have said they'll veto it and the Germans don't want any more celtic scroungers joining the Euro. Doesn't matter! FREEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Fox]

Independent Scotland won't pay back debt, Alex Salmond says

Alex Salmond has reportedly taunted the Westminster government over whether an independent Scotland should take on its share of the national debt, saying: “What are they going to do – invade?”

The First Minister was said to have made the comments when pressed about how the Government would react to a decision by a newly independent Scotland to leave the Union without shouldering its share of national debt.

The comments were reported by ITV News, citing sources close to the First Minister, although they were dismissed as “total nonsense” by Mr Salmond’s spokesman.

'Yes' vote in the bag?

A word of caution, though: when George Soros says 'An independent Scotland would be financially unstable', it's a threat you shouldn't take lightly. Just ask Malaysia.

So, should the 'yes' campaign prevail, can we expect Mr. Soros to be funding a more 'open' and 'democratic' Scotland - if he's not already?

[vtsnowedin]

If the vote goes NO we will have to start a pool on how long it takes them to take back all those new freedoms and powers they have promised.

[UndercoverElephant]

Good article, Biff. I followed up the mention of 'Wee Ginger Dug'...

Most Scottish people have by now grasped the concept that independence is not like a fortnight’s holiday, and for those who have already decided to vote Yes, the foreveriness part of it is one of the major attractions. No more nuclear missiles, forever. No more Etonian Tory Prime Ministers, forever. No more Scottish Labour policies being determined by the need to chase after UKIP voters in Essex, forever. No more governments we didn’t vote for, forever – or at least until the arrival of our alien lizard overlords from Alpha Centauri in the 23rd century. It is true to say that Scotland will not be as prepared for this event as the rest of the UK, which will already have had centuries practising for life under alien lizard overlords, and will scarcely notice the difference. This may be the only positive case for the Union which has any credibility left. After two years of Project Fear, the mass emoting of the Westminster leaders was more than a little creepy, like a bouquet from a stalker.

Project Fear is of course continuing unabated, only more so as Westminster politicians frantically begged for favours from future members of the Lords. There was another blow again after all the banks announced that they are going to leave if we vote Yes because Scotland is the only country on the planet that can’t have any currency at all. And they’ll take all the cash machines, and your credit card, and those wee plastic bags for loose change and all the artificial plants. No one will ever get a mortgage ever again, and you’ll have to stay with your parents and you and your significant other will have to have sex really really quietly. But the annoying recorded message phone calls that tell you you might have a claim for PPI compensation will still disturb you when you’re trying to have very very quiet sex on a Saturday morning when your dad’s a bit hung over and your maw has popped out for the messages – only they’ll call twice as often. But that will only be a problem until your parents’ phone gets cut off because they can’t pay the bill because money won’t exist. And your maw won’t get any messages because there won’t be any money. Then we’ll all starve to death. And Davie’s heart will be broken, because that’s what happens when bankers fear they might have to operate in a country where they could be regulated.

Oh, and the oil companies are all leaving too. Even that wee petrol station on the way to Oban. There’s no oil left and Oban is far too volatile, and no one will want to buy any of the Scottish oil that there isn’t any left of anyway, on account of Scotland not being allowed to have any money at all. So that’s us telt then. It’s all so uncertain and there aren’t any answers to ridiculous questions. Yes, I am so treating you like a grown up. Just eat your cereal and vote No.

...glad I did!

http://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/

This:

There was another blow again after all the banks announced that they are going to leave if we vote Yes because Scotland is the only country on the planet that can’t have any currency at all. And they’ll take all the cash machines, and your credit card, and those wee plastic bags for loose change and all the artificial plants. No one will ever get a mortgage ever again, and you’ll have to stay with your parents and you and your significant other will have to have sex really really quietly.

...is absolutely typical of the nationalist twittery. It's an ENORMOUS strawman. It deliberately mis-represents the position of the No campaign, and misleads people about the true situation. Nobody said "Scotland can't have a currency". What they said is that Scotland cannot force England into a currency union, which means it wouldn't have a central bank and would have its interest rates set by a foreign country. The very fact that the real debate has been side-stepped in favour of a strawman parody should set alarm bells off for anybody who actually cares about the real issues. If you can win an argument by dealing with the actual issue then you do so. Giant strawmen are for people who don't have a real answer to the real question.

The person who wrote it clearly thinks he is clever. He is not. He's f*cktard who either doesn't understand what he is talking about, or doesn't care that he is talking utter bollocks. None of it matters to him, because soon he's going to be FREEEEEEEE!!!!!

[UndercoverElephant]

Independent Scotland won't pay back debt, Alex Salmond says

Alex Salmond has reportedly taunted the Westminster government over whether an independent Scotland should take on its share of the national debt, saying: “What are they going to do – invade?”

The First Minister was said to have made the comments when pressed about how the Government would react to a decision by a newly independent Scotland to leave the Union without shouldering its share of national debt.

The comments were reported by ITV News, citing sources close to the First Minister, although they were dismissed as “total nonsense” by Mr Salmond’s spokesman.

'Yes' vote in the bag?

A word of caution, though: when George Soros says 'An independent Scotland would be financially unstable', it's a threat you shouldn't take lightly. Just ask Malaysia.

So, should the 'yes' campaign prevail, can we expect Mr. Soros to be funding a more 'open' and 'democratic' Scotland - if he's not already?

Yes, George Soros should not be dismissed lightly.

And as for Alex Salmond's "threat", it's pure idiocy, like everything else that wafts, fart-like, out of his mouth. Reneging on Scotland's share of the UK debt would lead to the entire English political establishment and wider population, despising Scotland. Does a newly independent Scotland really want to majorly piss off its nearest neighbour and biggest trading partner? Nope, but that would be the least of Scotland's problems if it tried a stunt like this. Scotland would be in a position where it was either using sterling outside of a currency union, or a new currency. Either way, it would need to borrow money on the international credit markets to meet the costs of setting Scotland up as an independent country. But who in their right mind lends money to a country that has just defaulted on its debt in an act of anti-English malice because it was refused a currency union that England would be insane to have agreed to?

Alex Salmond is a moron. It's that simple.

[Mr. Fox]

Nobody said "Scotland can't have a currency".

Billionaire investor George Soros has said he does not think it would be possible for an independent Scotland to keep the pound.

How dare the Scots consider not voting in line with the interests of a billionaire financier!

who in their right mind lends money to a country that has just defaulted on its debt in an act of anti-English malice

They could try Iceland..?

[peaceful_life]

Independent Scotland won't pay back debt, Alex Salmond says

Alex Salmond has reportedly taunted the Westminster government over whether an independent Scotland should take on its share of the national debt, saying: “What are they going to do – invade?”

The First Minister was said to have made the comments when pressed about how the Government would react to a decision by a newly independent Scotland to leave the Union without shouldering its share of national debt.

The comments were reported by ITV News, citing sources close to the First Minister, although they were dismissed as “total nonsense” by Mr Salmond’s spokesman.

'Yes' vote in the bag?

A word of caution, though: when George Soros says 'An independent Scotland would be financially unstable', it's a threat you shouldn't take lightly. Just ask Malaysia.

So, should the 'yes' campaign prevail, can we expect Mr. Soros to be funding a more 'open' and 'democratic' Scotland - if he's not already?

Yes, George Soros should not be dismissed lightly.

And as for Alex Salmond's "threat", it's pure idiocy, like everything else that wafts, fart-like, out of his mouth. Reneging on Scotland's share of the UK debt would lead to the entire English political establishment and wider population, despising Scotland. Does a newly independent Scotland really want to majorly piss off its nearest neighbour and biggest trading partner? Nope, but that would be the least of Scotland's problems if it tried a stunt like this. Scotland would be in a position where it was either using sterling outside of a currency union, or a new currency. Either way, it would need to borrow money on the international credit markets to meet the costs of setting Scotland up as an independent country. But who in their right mind lends money to a country that has just defaulted on its debt in an act of anti-English malice because it was refused a currency union that England would be insane to have agreed to?

Alex Salmond is a moron. It's that simple.

It's really not about Mr Salmond, but as you mention him, yet again, here's what went on today......


'Alex Salmond treats the BBC's Nick Robinson with the precise level of respect he deserves at a press conference'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHmLb-RIbrM#t=293