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RenewableCandy wrote:Has anyone seen the latest wheeze whereby "pro-Russina Ukranians" have been seen handing out authoritative-looking bits of paper saying "All Jews must register (somewhere) by 3rd May"?

I mean. Too obvious, guys :roll:
Wot, you mean this?
“There are similar letters not only addressed to Jews, but also to businessmen, foreign students, people of certain other occupations,” he told RT. “This is actually a fake, and not a good one. There’s a sign “People’s Governor”. First of all, no one calls me by that title, no one elected me. Secondly, the stamp is the former mayor’s. Everything’s photoshopped.
No wonder JHK called John Kerry "a haircut in search of a brain.."
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As usual, John Pilger gives us a truthful helicopter view of the mess. This man is a hero.
Since Washington's putsch in Kiev - and Moscow's inevitable response in Russian Crimea, to protect its Black Sea Fleet - the provocation and isolation of Russia have been inverted in the news to the "Russian threat". This is fossilised propaganda.
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raspberry-blower wrote:More on Russia's move to ditch the Petrodollar along with the re-opening of "The Silk Road" from China to Germany:
Curiously, western media have so far been oblivious to both events. It seems like a desire to extending the falsehood of our western illusion and arrogance – as long as the silence will bear.

Germany, the economic driver of Europe – the world’s fourth largest economy (US$ 3.6 trillion GDP) – on the western end of the new trading axis, will be like a giant magnet, attracting other European trading partners of Germany’s to the New Silk Road. What looks like a future gain for Russia and China, also bringing about security and stability, would be a lethal loss for Washington.

In addition, the BRICS are preparing to launch a new currency – composed by a basket of their local currencies – to be used for international trading, as well as for a new reserve currency, replacing the rather worthless debt ridden dollar – a welcome feat for the world.

Along with the new BRICS(A) currency will come a new international payment settlement system, replacing the SWIFT and IBAN exchanges, thereby breaking the hegemony of the infamous privately owned currency and gold manipulator, the Bank for International Settlement (BIS) in Basle, Switzerland – also called the central bank of all central banks.
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Have a quick listen to a minute of Max Keiser.
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As usual, Pilger states the facts cleanly and succinctly.
For Germans, it is an invidious irony that Putin is the only leader to condemn the rise of fascism in 21st-century Europe.
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Ukraine: Tanks 'cross from Russia'
Breaking news

Ukrainian interior minister says three tanks have crossed border from Russia, amid reports of fresh fighting

BBC

This would be classic timing from Putin, given all things Iraq. And classic black op from the other side.

And the first day of the World Cup!
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More about those tanks that supposedly came from Russia; turns out to be more propaganda

Meanwhile, another setback for the Ukrainian junta as transporter jet is shot down
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How long will this round last? Who will pay the bill this time?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... ly-ukraine
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Ukraine says Russia has cut off all gas supplies to Kiev, in a major escalation of a dispute between the two nations.

"Gas supplies to Ukraine have been reduced to zero," Ukrainian Energy Minister Yuri Prodan said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27862849
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And now this...

http://rt.com/news/166532-gas-pipeline-blast-ukraine/

"gas transit pipeline explodes in Ukraine. Flames reported up to 200 metres high"

:shock:
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And as usual

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just another point of view diametrically opposite to the bias:
Don't be writing the US off just yet.

AND....

Do you really want to be left alone in a world where Britain is the lone light of the free world, the US disappeared and the EU swallowed up and plundered by Russia hmmm?
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fifthcolumn wrote:just another point of view diametrically opposite to the bias:
Don't be writing the US off just yet.

AND....

Do you really want to be left alone in a world where Britain is the lone light of the free world, the US disappeared and the EU swallowed up and plundered by Russia hmmm?
Vis a vis Russia and the USA, don't you think it's rather the other way around, at least if the USA has anything to do with it. In other words, whilst the evidence is both voluminous and overwhelming for the USA seeking to dominate the rest of the world, by proxy if it can and more directly if it can't, what evidence do you have that a contemporary Russia has similar aims?
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I guess my other posts in this thread didn't toe the party line and have now been deleted.

Any case: I've made the "unfounded assertions" I wanted to make.

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fifthcolumn wrote:I guess my other posts in this thread didn't toe the party line and have now been deleted.
FC, are you sure? It would be highly unlikely.
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Nobody could confuse you with RGR so your posts would not get deleted.
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