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kenneal - lagger wrote:Could be worse!! If all that rain had fallen as snow we would be covered by over two metres by now.
That never happens though. The times when the southern half of the UK gets a serious load of snow are always when the weather is coming in from the east or northeast. It happens when the really cold air from the continental weather systems spills over further west than usual, and this stops the warm, wet air from the Atlantic from reaching us. When the weather starts coming in from the west again, that's when the snow melts.
The local weather forecast says we could be getting at least another 40mm in the tomorrow's storm alone. Then there's Friday's storm and probably the same next week!
Yep. And that is falling on ground which is now totally waterlogged everywhere.
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I'm driving to Bristol tomorrow.

I'm not sure what route is my best option. Heavy rain and high winds forecast. The M2 is closed due to sink hole, so motorways are not guaranteed to remain open.
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kenneal - lagger wrote:Could be worse!! If all that rain had fallen as snow we would be covered by over two metres by now.

The local weather forecast says we could be getting at least another 40mm in the tomorrow's storm alone. Then there's Friday's storm and probably the same next week!
Ahem...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-h ... s-25964307
The upper runs of three Scottish ski resorts have more snow than those of a venue for the last Winter Olympics, it has been claimed.

Ski Club of Great Britain has reported depths of 285cm at Glencoe Mountain, 250cm at CairnGorm Mountain and 200cm at Nevis Range.

It said there was 128cm at Whistler in Canada.

Ski-Scotland said this snowsports season could match or better 2009-10's, which was the best in recent memory.
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Don't know what all the fuss is about. 100mm of snow in our field and we could go skiing.

That's not quite true bout the snow Adam. If we have cold air over the UK coming from the east and a front approaches from the Atlantic that can lead to a huge dump of snow where the warm air collides with the cold air and is forced upwards. That is when we get the biggest falls of snow.

Whether or not the snow melts depends on how far east the warm front is able to push the cold air. If the cold air doesn't move the warm air blows over the top of it resulting in a heavy dump of snow. If the warm air moves the cold air we get rain.
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Just received this photo of the farm where Greenham commoners keep some of our cattle. The water in this photo is about 900 (3ft) deep but a bit further on from here it's over the top of a five bar gate! This is the River Kennet which flows into the Thames at Reading and the Kennet and Avon Canal which is also over its banks in places.

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About 10 miles downstream from here just outside Reading is another part of the floodplain where a developer wanted to build several thousand houses. Luckily they lost on appeal.
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I seem to remember from a couple of years ago when there was a drought, certain folk round here were quite shirty with me when I suggested that in the long run it would be too much water that would be Britain's problem and that we should concentrate on preparing to rid of the excess. ;)

(That should fix it. The next drought will start next week.)
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biffvernon wrote:I seem to remember from a couple of years ago when there was a drought, certain folk round here were quite shirty with me when I suggested that in the long run it would be too much water that would be Britain's problem and that we should concentrate on preparing to rid of the excess. ;)

(That should fix it. The next drought will start next week.)
That's how it seems, but the landscape being what it is...isn't retaining the water to recharge the land, it's flashing off and taking the topsoil with it and conditions become arid when we have the high temps. It's not a question of getting rid, it's holding it and managing it that's important.
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Oh yes, absolutely. One of the points I made is that we should have far more storage capacity. Bring in the beavers.
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biffvernon wrote:I seem to remember from a couple of years ago when there was a drought, certain folk round here were quite shirty with me when I suggested that in the long run it would be too much water that would be Britain's problem and that we should concentrate on preparing to rid of the excess. ;)

(That should fix it. The next drought will start next week.)
I dunno. I nikwaxed my anorak last week - that's usually enough to stop the rain overnight, but it hasn't worked this year. Traditional methods are failing, it seems.
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Beware of worsening weather - it's happening here as I type. We woke to lashing rain but the gales at lunchtime are like no other I've experienced in this country.

Trees are coming down, lampposts are being bent to the ground, vehicles are being overturned, slates are falling, shutter doors are being bent like paper. It's dangerous, frightening weather and where we are, we don't get the worst of it.

It'll be coming your way fairly soon.
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Almost 100,000 homes without power in Ireland.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environm ... -1.1688660

According to BBC News, it's a quarter of a million homes without power in Ireland!
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Adam1 wrote:According to BBC News, it's a quarter of a million homes without power in Ireland!
Wow. 18%! :lol:

Things have calmed down somewhat but it was a spectacular few hours. :shock:
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We just finished some minor repairs and slight improvements, ie added some bailing twine to tie down our log store front cover. If that's all I have to do I will be well pleased.

More to come on Friday, though!!
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Is this the beginning of the end? I mean, weather so bad that BAU is constantly disrupted can only mean the end of BAU.
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featherstick wrote:
biffvernon wrote:I seem to remember from a couple of years ago when there was a drought, certain folk round here were quite shirty with me when I suggested that in the long run it would be too much water that would be Britain's problem and that we should concentrate on preparing to rid of the excess. ;)

(That should fix it. The next drought will start next week.)
I dunno. I nikwaxed my anorak last week - that's usually enough to stop the rain overnight, but it hasn't worked this year. Traditional methods are failing, it seems.
half beeswax/half candle wax melted together in a block. Rub it on, leaving a film of white/creamy coloured wax on the garment. Then take a hair dryer to it. It wicks into the cloth and disappears. Repeat as many times as you wish to increase waterproofing. You are forced to stop, however, when the cloth is fully saturated and the wax wont wick in any more under heat. Works well for me. I do all my flat caps that way plus my fisherman’s smocks. Works well on fabric footwear as well.

I make my own, but I think you can buy it. It's called Greenland Wax I think.
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