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How will oil depletion affect the way we live? What will the economic impact be? How will agriculture change? Will we thrive or merely survive?

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woodburner wrote:Yummy, yummy, loads o' money...........
Lancashire mills and factories were the heart of British industry. Its collieries burned day and night, helping Britain build the richest and most powerful Empire in history.

It was a golden period of prosperity. And Lancashire was at its core...

But what rich industrialists back then didn't realise was that under those mills and factories lay a fuel source more valuable than the whole Empire put together...

An energy reserve that geologists believe is bigger than the Texan oil lands...

The gasfields of Russia...

Bigger even than the oil rich deserts of Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates put together.

In fact, until this summer... no one knew just how big it was.

It wasn't until June 2013, that scientists from the British Geological Society confirmed the startling discovery. According to their findings, a vast reserve of energy – the biggest of its kind in the Western hemisphere – has lain under Lancashire for centuries.

It could be worth a lot of money – anything between £1 trillion and £9.5 trillion.
Is it true?
I practically vomited my breakfast when I read that article. :cry:
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Did you notice he says he is telling you absolutely everything about why and where to invest your money,.............. but only if you subscribe to the newsletter?
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woodburner wrote:Yummy, yummy, loads o' money...........
Lancashire mills and factories were the heart of British industry. Its collieries burned day and night, helping Britain build the richest and most powerful Empire in history.

It was a golden period of prosperity. And Lancashire was at its core...

But what rich industrialists back then didn't realise was that under those mills and factories lay a fuel source more valuable than the whole Empire put together...

An energy reserve that geologists believe is bigger than the Texan oil lands...

The gasfields of Russia...

Bigger even than the oil rich deserts of Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates put together.

In fact, until this summer... no one knew just how big it was.

It wasn't until June 2013, that scientists from the British Geological Society confirmed the startling discovery. According to their findings, a vast reserve of energy – the biggest of its kind in the Western hemisphere – has lain under Lancashire for centuries.

It could be worth a lot of money – anything between £1 trillion and £9.5 trillion.
Is it true?
No it's just Lancastrians desperately searching for something to be proud of :D
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RenewableCandy wrote:No it's just Lancastrians desperately searching for something to be proud of :D
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-25622863
Police have said they think a flare was fired at their force helicopter from an anti-fracking protest camp in Salford.
The protestors of course say its nothing to do with them, its a plot by the police to discredit...
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PS_RalphW wrote:
The protestors of course say its nothing to do with them, its a plot by the police to discredit...
I have found from personal experience that the police are capable of lying. And then running a system to cover up the lies.
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Probably the allegation will go nowhere for lack of evidence. Has the flare shell been recovered?

What will last is the meme 'Frack protestors attack police'. No headline will follow to say 'Police find no evidence that the event ever happened'.
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biffvernon wrote:
PS_RalphW wrote:
The protestors of course say its nothing to do with them, its a plot by the police to discredit...
I have found from personal experience that the police are capable of lying. And then running a system to cover up the lies.
I have found from personal experience that those suspected of having committed a crime are often convicted by a jury of their peers for having done it. Funny how that works.
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So I take it that, going by "your personal experience", juries are unnecessary!

Assuming you live in the USA somewhere, that means you might get executed by mistake (at least, you would if you were a real person). If that happened, you might learn something.
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Alternatively the protestors will be arrested on suspicion, Taken to police vstation, and given the choice between being bound over for years to keep miles away from any frack site, or be charged with endangering aircraft, and be denied bail, for several months before offering no evidence at trial.
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It is completely obvious that the sort of people camping at Barton Moss are not the sort of people who fire flares at helicopters.

Sadly, the policemen are the sort of people who, in their search of tents for evidence of weapons of flary destruction, pull the bedding out into the rain.
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RenewableCandy wrote:So I take it that, going by "your personal experience", juries are unnecessary!
Nope.Completely necessary. Jury nullification is one of the few places left for the little guy to make his displeasure known to TPTB.
RenewableCandy wrote: Assuming you live in the USA somewhere, that means you might get executed by mistake (at least, you would if you were a real person). If that happened, you might learn something.
Being executed is bad. By mistake is even worse. Fortunately we don't execute near as many as we can, being careful to not make that mistake any more than necessary.
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Ralph wrote:
RenewableCandy wrote:So I take it that, going by "your personal experience", juries are unnecessary!
Nope.Completely necessary. Jury nullification is one of the few places left for the little guy to make his displeasure known to TPTB.
RenewableCandy wrote: Assuming you live in the USA somewhere, that means you might get executed by mistake (at least, you would if you were a real person). If that happened, you might learn something.
Being executed is bad. By mistake is even worse. Fortunately we don't execute near as many as we can, being careful to not make that mistake any more than necessary.
So, sometimes it is "necessary" to mistakenly execute someone is it?
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stevecook172001 wrote:[]So, sometimes it is "necessary" to mistakenly execute someone is it?
Why of course not. You can let a thousand murderers out on the street or have them languish for decades in prison communing with the other less violent prisoners to avoid killing one person for the wrong murder or who never killed anybody. It will be hard to explain it to the later victims families of those you kept alive.
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stevecook172001 wrote:
Ralph wrote: Being executed is bad. By mistake is even worse. Fortunately we don't execute near as many as we can, being careful to not make that mistake any more than necessary.
So, sometimes it is "necessary" to mistakenly execute someone is it?
Nope. Just the naturally expected consequence of executing anyone. Sooner or later, for one reason or another, there will be a mistake. Happens in all kinds of systems, driving cars, drug mixups from the pharmacist, poor decisions during surgery resulting in death, etc etc.
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