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RenewableCandy wrote:While not disagreeing that the landlord here is making other people's lives a misery, could it be that he is also being dropped in it by recent changes from HMG?

I mean, you hear a lot about housing benefit etc being delayed, miscalculated, or whatever. If his income is becoming unreliable as a result, perhaps he hasn't got much of a choice.

However, if he doesn't want people who get any type of benefit, these days that rules out rather a large proportion of the working population, not just the sick and unemployed. If other landlords follow suit, that means places where housing is expensive will soon find themselves devoid of anyone who does any actual, local, work (as opposed to managers, consultants etc). So, no cleaners, no dusties, no firefighters or teachers...
I actually agree with you RC. I suspect this landlord, like many others, will have been dropped in the shit by the housing benefit changes (excuse me while my heart bleeds). In which case, if he had simply been honest and said that, due to the changes, this meant that he could no longer afford to keep these tenants since his debt to income ratio had been knackered by the new benefit caps; in which case, he has decided to rent the properties out to Eastern European migrants because they will take low paid jobs that will allow them to live 10 to a house and still be able to pay the rent he is asking, I would have had some degree of understanding, at least economically speaking.

Trouble is, that wouldn't sound very nice or morally grounded, though, would it.....

So, instead, he comes out with some poisonous shite about immigrants being somehow superior to the incumbent tenants. This way he thinks he can ride on the back of the current moral justification used by the authorities to keep dissent about immigration policies suppressed. The fact that this makes the scumbag look even worse to many will have no doubt been lost on him.

Nasty, nasty, nasty.....
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But aren't there (still) laws about how many people can live in a place? I once got evicted because the basement I was living in (which I'd actually done up quite nicely and was rather fond of) was supposed, Planning said, to be a shop's store-room. The Council inspector (I remember him as a tall bloke in a dark coat: so tall he had to stoop there) was amazed I lived in it.
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RenewableCandy wrote:But aren't there (still) laws about how many people can live in a place? I once got evicted because the basement I was living in (which I'd actually done up quite nicely and was rather fond of) was supposed, Planning said, to be a shop's store-room. The Council inspector (I remember him as a tall bloke in a dark coat: so tall he had to stoop there) was amazed I lived in it.
And how many newly arrived low-pay immigrants are going to complain to the authorities when they are living 10 to a house and they are doing so by choice in order to save as much money as they can to send home? For many of them, this will simply be a short to medium term economic strategy, not a permanent emigration career move. They are the modern, transnational equivalent of the itinerant worker.
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But, I wasn't complaining about my basement either. I still got thrown out: councils and the like (used to) inspect for this kind of thing.
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RenewableCandy wrote:But aren't there (still) laws about how many people can live in a place? I once got evicted because the basement I was living in (which I'd actually done up quite nicely and was rather fond of) was supposed, Planning said, to be a shop's store-room. The Council inspector (I remember him as a tall bloke in a dark coat: so tall he had to stoop there) was amazed I lived in it.
This is the current status in parts of UK cities:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17185294
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RenewableCandy wrote:But, I wasn't complaining about my basement either. I still got thrown out: councils and the like (used to) inspect for this kind of thing.
In the current climate, I wonder how many accommodation-stretched councils are going to be actively looking for reasons to have to re-house people. Especially so given they will have, in the case of the Wilson's area, just had an extra 200 tenants and their families thrust on them in any event.
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Point. They've probably got other things on their minds right now...
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This is from last March but has some pertinent points:
Great Tory housing shame: Third of ex-council homes now owned by rich landlords
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ri ... il-1743338
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biffvernon wrote:This is from last March but has some pertinent points:
Great Tory housing shame: Third of ex-council homes now owned by rich landlords
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ri ... il-1743338
So two thirds or the vast majority are owned by people other then rich landlords. Could be a lot worse don't you think?
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How to sway the reader by weighting the argument. yet if a hospital had an operations death rate of 1 in 100, it would be unacceptable.
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Dalai Lama wrote: There needs to be understanding that anger never helps to solve a problem. It destroys our peace of mind and blinds our ability to think clearly. Anger and attachment are emotions that distort our view of reality.
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woodburner wrote:How to sway the reader by weighting the argument. yet if a hospital had an operations death rate of 1 in 100, it would be unacceptable.
What weight did I add to the argument that was not in the original statement plain to see for the comprehending reader?
Then you throw in a totally off topic factoid about death rates when we are discussing housing cost. Hardly the same standard applies.
By the way a 1 in 100 death rate in an elderly population sick enough to need surgery in the first place would be very good indeed. During the American civil war field hospital amputations had a survival rate of just fifty percent which was a number the surgeons were proud of.
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biffvernon wrote:
Dalai Lama wrote: There needs to be understanding that anger never helps to solve a problem. It destroys our peace of mind and blinds our ability to think clearly. Anger and attachment are emotions that distort our view of reality.
Greetings from Smug Central :)
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:wink:
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RenewableCandy wrote:
biffvernon wrote:
Dalai Lama wrote: There needs to be understanding that anger never helps to solve a problem. It destroys our peace of mind and blinds our ability to think clearly. Anger and attachment are emotions that distort our view of reality.
Greetings from Smug Central :)
:lol:

I was going to say something, but I thought that, coming from me, it might be a bit too obvious. Thanks for that RC.... :lol:
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