Plastic money

odaeio · Post by **odaeio** » 18 Dec 2013, 13:59

Wonder if the chips will be imbedded in the notes from the get go? GCHQ needs something else to do now, maybe their expertise and infra-structure can be used to let HMRC know exactly how much cash has passed through an individuals hands.......

'Course we need plastic notes - electronics doesn't work too well after it's been wet.......

Will be great for retailers to know precisely how much cash one has in their pocket as they walk through the door.......

Yep, Orwell's vision is well underway, not long to go now for completion......

odaeio · Post by **odaeio** » 18 Dec 2013, 14:05

Wonder what the punishment will be for microwaving one's bank notes?

In the interests of "elf 'n safety/hygiene of course...........

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 18 Dec 2013, 14:26

I've heard of electronics getting fried, but I guess microwaving is less greasy.

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 18 Dec 2013, 16:47

They're probably designed to self-destruct in 2 minutes...

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 18 Dec 2013, 17:20

If not they'll just turn up in a turtle's stomach, like the rest of the plastic.

alex · Post by **alex** » 19 Dec 2013, 23:51

Iv'e met these things (plastic bank-notes) in Canada. At first I didn't realise but thought them to be too pristine and rather false. By the way at the time the guy who is now governor of the bank of England was running the show over there.

Leave one out in the sun for a couple of hours as done with a 5-Can-$ bill and it soon degenerated. It was an experiment I can vouch was tried and proved on the terrace of a bar on Vancouver Island one evening last June. Couldn't do that here though as someone would have run off with the cash!

Sad thing is, here in the UK is a small industry of paper-makers who specialise in the making of the material for the old notes as we know them, they will no doubt become casualties of this.

Suppose it is what we call progress.

Alex

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 20 Dec 2013, 06:59

Pity it's the Daily Mail, but there are other considerations about plastic bank notes. However this Carnie bloke has imported his accountant approach having made up his mind and nothing is going to change it. As with so many "consultations", there was little chance of stopping the change.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 20 Dec 2013, 10:50

The continual replacement of biodegradable/reusable materials - paper, glass, cork, wood, cotton etc - with plastic is part of this insane fossil fuel blip. The plastic produced, sadly, is going to hang around doing its evil thing long after FFs are gone.

Often to my financial cost, I shun plastic as much as possible, which has the strange effect of people thinking me bonkers.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 20 Dec 2013, 11:03

I don't think you are bonkers.

I don't think the name Anthropocene is appropriate for a geological Period, rather it will be a Boundary Layer, to be marked by a thin, global, sedimentary horizon rich in long-chain hydro-carbon molecules, the remnants of our plastic, to which bank notes will now contribute.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 20 Dec 2013, 11:32

Well, some people think I'm bonkers, sometimes those people include me.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 24 Jan 2014, 12:12

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Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 24 Jan 2014, 21:38

emordnilap wrote:Valaurum

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Wouldn't be high on my list,

Gold in the form of an Aurum® is typically worth more than the net weight of the gold. There is a growing list of dealers interested in purchasing them.

Hmmm, 1/10 gram of gold in a note: $10

http://shop.valaurum.com/Peak-Prosperit ... 0g-PP1.htm

Spot price of that gold: £4.07

http://goldprice.org/gold-price-per-gram.html

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 24 Jan 2014, 21:50

emordnilap wrote:Valaurum

The aurum protects a precise amount of gold between layers of durable polyester. In the form of an aurum, gold is more convenient, affordable, versatile, and trustworthy than ever before.

Interesting, especially if they can be made hard to fake.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 26 Jan 2014, 16:19

Catweazle wrote:
emordnilap wrote:Valaurum

The aurum protects a precise amount of gold between layers of durable polyester. In the form of an aurum, gold is more convenient, affordable, versatile, and trustworthy than ever before.
Wouldn't be high on my list,

Gold in the form of an Aurum® is typically worth more than the net weight of the gold. There is a growing list of dealers interested in purchasing them.
Hmmm, 1/10 gram of gold in a note: $10

http://shop.valaurum.com/Peak-Prosperit ... 0g-PP1.htm

Spot price of that gold: £4.07

http://goldprice.org/gold-price-per-gram.html

The inventor's answer:

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emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 26 Feb 2014, 10:56

More on the aurum

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