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What can we do to change the minds of decision makers and people in general to actually do something about preparing for the forthcoming economic/energy crises (the ones after this one!)?

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Edward Snowden deserves his own thread. And much more besides.

Thank you buses hit Washington's streets.

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Time magazine's person of the year?
This year, there is only one logical choice: Edward Snowden.
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The cheek of it. Snowden is now being blamed for potential loss of revenue. LOL.

Massive irony failure.
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Well, if they don't like the effect their spying has on business, they shouldn't do it. Simples. Conversely, if they really feel they must do such things, they have to learn to live with the fact that people/businesses will react.
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Time Magazine's person of the year 2013 poll.

Eddie baby is currently ahead of Putin and the pope and, thank goodness, Obama.

Such is the vapidity of American life generally that Miley Cyrus is currently in the number one spot.
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I thought we'd already reached Peak Miley Cyrus.
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Snowden is Guardian person of the year (obviously).

Also

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/d ... econd-life

The NSA are paid to play World or Warcraft etc.

Gives a whole new meaning to trolling.

What next Powerswitch plants?
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"Even the Guardian, which has been key to publishing what Snowden has, recently suggested we may have so far seen only one percent of what he has,"
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Amnesty taking action over snooping revelations.
The IPT reviews complaints about the conduct of the UK's intelligence agencies, but critics say it is secretive and unregulated. Amnesty has asked the IPT hold a public hearing into its claims about surveillance. "In the face of such secret and extensive programmes of mass surveillance the current legal framework governing surveillance in the UK is woefully inadequate.

"It would be a ridiculous irony if the investigation into surveillance that has been carried out in secret was itself secret."
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Some ex-bouncer got the Time person of the year award but Snowden gets the no. 1 slots here and here as well as the Gudgeon gong.
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What yer-average NGO is up against.
What other offensive tactics can corporate spies use?

Disinformation
. Corporate spies may create and disseminate disinformation to
create dissention within an organization, or to discredit an organization. They may also create false information that, if released by the organization to the public, would damage the organization’s credibility.

Investigating the private lives of activists including their spouses, children,
religious activities to gain leverage over them.

Blackmail
. Corporations can blackmail activists to try to force them to stop their
campaign against a corporation.

Creation of false dossiers
. Corporations can hire law firms or private investigators
to compile false or misleading dossiers to discredit an activist or whistleblower.

Which nonprofits get targeted for corporate espionage?

In general, there are two preconditions for a nonprofit to be targeted with corporate espionage.
First, it requires a corporation that is willing to use the tools of espionage and the risks associated with it.
Second, it requires a nonprofit that impairs or at least threatens a company’s assets or image sufficiently.
Mark Floegel of Greenpeace says that Greenpeace has been repeatedly
targeted for espionage because “We’re effective at what we do.” But he also notes that some PR firms (which sometimes subcontract with private detective firms) “have a symbiotic relationship with Greenpeace.” He says that on several occasions, PR firms have contacted the corporate targets of Greenpeace by saying “Don’t let Greenpeace embarrass you.” Floegel says that Greenpeace is “really good for the PR economy.”
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Snowden is euronews's POTY.
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And everything Snowden warned us about has turned out to be true.
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emordnilap wrote:
And everything Snowden warned us about has turned out to be true.
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Edward Snowden must be feeling rather pleased with himself.
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Snowden: After months of NSA revelations, says his mission is accomplished

Mission accomplished - where have I heard that before? :evil:
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