the frack thread

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 02 Sep 2013, 21:10

HELP! New application published for Biscathorpe. Please download the information and write to Lincolnshire County Council: http://transitiontownlouth.org.uk/frack.html

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 02 Sep 2013, 21:31

Send them videos of the Louisiana sink holes. That should frighten a few people. Anyway, Call Me Dave wants the whole country to benefit from gas. They've reject the benefits of Sarin, so they'll just have to have shale.

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 19 Sep 2013, 07:01

Illegal discharge will cause no lasting environmental damage. So that's alright then.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/0 ... astewater/[/quote]

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 19 Sep 2013, 11:35

Water and oil don't mix: http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... loods.html

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 25 Sep 2013, 14:05

Lucas charged over anti-fracking protest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24271396

Should be fun. I hope she manages to get a full court trial with jury - there is a good chance they would acquit in the face of any evidence. More likely she will get a compliant magistrate (and local land owner/energy stock broker).

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 26 Sep 2013, 08:16

Here’s my reply to The Big Debate: Is there a 'Transition position' on fracking?: https://transitionnetwork.org/blogs/rob ... ment-16577

Ralph · Post by **Ralph** » 30 Sep 2013, 04:08

biffvernon wrote:Here’s my reply to The Big Debate: Is there a 'Transition position' on fracking?: https://transitionnetwork.org/blogs/rob ... ment-16577

Third paragraph down.

"If we allow production of unconventional hydrocarbons then we're certainly doomed. "

Natural gas production from shale source rock began in the US in about 1825. Little late to notice NOW seems like.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 01 Oct 2013, 15:58

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 02 Oct 2013, 14:18

Energy minister backs fracking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24366443

30-40 wells in the next 2 years. If each one costs £4m in policing costs alone I think we can safely say that shale gas will not generate lower NG prices.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 08 Oct 2013, 16:13

biffvernon wrote:Here’s my reply to The Big Debate: Is there a 'Transition position' on fracking?: https://transitionnetwork.org/blogs/rob ... ment-16577

Just found this.

"There is a global limit on a safe level of emissions. That means major fossil fuel reserves must be left in the ground. That has huge implications for economic and social development."

She's OK is our Mary.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 08 Oct 2013, 18:23

I've copied this to a new thread at http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/forum/vie ... 151#244151

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 10 Oct 2013, 15:28

Nice article here from Jim Quinn.

Royal Dutch Shell is one of the biggest corporations in the world, with financial resources greater than 99% of all the organizations on earth. Their CEO probably knows a little bit more about oil exploration than the Wall Street systers and CNBC bimbos. His company has poured $24 billion into shale exploration in the U.S. It has been a huge failure. They have already written off $2.1 billion. They are trying to sell huge swaths of land in the Eagle Ford area. They are losing money in the shale oil and gas business. If Shell can’t make it profitable, who can?

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 10 Oct 2013, 16:08

emordnilap wrote: If Shell can’t make it profitable, who can?

Gideon Osborne, Michael Fallon, Lord Browne et al.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 25 Oct 2013, 22:43

Janez Potočnik, European Commissioner for Environment, gave a speech: A European Strategy for Shale, earlier this week. He's a good bloke, we should encourage him and lend him our support. http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SP ... 840_en.htm

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 27 Nov 2013, 11:47

Woodburner, you'll enjoy this.

In Europe, Chevron wants the “the strongest possible protection” from government measures to “mitigate the risks associated with large-scale, capital intensive, and long term projects […] such as developing shale gas”. Because of its health and environmental impacts, several EU governments have decided to put a break* on shale gas development (‘fracking’). TTIP’s proposed investment protection chapter would empower energy companies like Chevron to challenge such precautionary measures because it would oblige governments “to refrain from undermining legitimate investment-backed expectations”, as Chevron demands

*I assume the author means brake.