IPCC Watch

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 22 Sep 2013, 22:03

Keep fossil fuel fossilised. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... al-warming

Post by **clv101** » 22 Sep 2013, 22:17

Right next to that article... ad advert from StatOil.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 22 Sep 2013, 22:42

I'm getting adverts for cashmere jumpers and wellie boots. I think the ads you see tells you something about yourself

Atman · Post by **Atman** » 23 Sep 2013, 10:17

You people get adverts? *sniggers*

Tarrel · Post by **Tarrel** » 23 Sep 2013, 12:18

I also get Statoil, but I have just passed three oil rigs being serviced at Invergordon!

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 23 Sep 2013, 20:59

Ok so if the jesters would just stop hijacking my thread for a moment, here beginneth the serious stuff:
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/press-releases/p ... remony.pdf

STOCKHOLM, 23 September – Government representatives and scientists opened a meeting of
the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) on Monday to finalize a report assessing
the evidence for climate change and its causes.
The meeting, the culmination of four years’ work by hundreds of experts who have volunteered their
time and expertise to produce a comprehensive assessment, will approve the Summary for
Policymakers of the first part of the IPCC’s Fifth Assessment Report, subjecting it to line-by-line
scrutiny. It will also accept the full report, which includes a Technical Summary, 14 chapters and
several annexes, including, for the first time, an Atlas of Global and Regional Climate Projections.
This first part of the report, produced by the IPCC’s Working Group I, deals with the physical
science basis of climate change. Further contributions, by IPCC Working Group II dealing with the
impacts, adaptation and vulnerability relating to climate change, and by Working Group III assessing
the mitigation of climate change, will be finalized in March and April 2014 respectively. The Fifth
Assessment Report will be completed by a Synthesis Report in October 2014.
“The scientific evidence for anthropogenic climate change has strengthened year by year, leaving
fewer uncertainties about the serious consequences of inaction, despite the fact that there remain
knowledge gaps and uncertainties in some areas of climate science,” said Qin Dahe, Co-Chair of
IPCC Working Group I.

Tarrel · Post by **Tarrel** » 23 Sep 2013, 21:29

Seems like a good helping of "rearranging the deck furniture while the ship goes down".

In 50 years I can see them sitting on a small island, surrounded by new ocean, and saying; "Gentlemen, I think we can finally conclude that we do, in fact, have a problem!"

As CLV said in another thread, we will decarbonise. It's just a question of whether we do it in an orderly fashion, or whether nature does it for us.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 26 Sep 2013, 10:43

biffvernon wrote:Ok“The scientific evidence for anthropogenic climate change has strengthened year by year, leaving
fewer uncertainties about the serious consequences of inaction, despite the fact that there remain
knowledge gaps and uncertainties in some areas of climate science,” said Qin Dahe, Co-Chair of
IPCC Working Group I.

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Now there is a weasel clause if I ever read one.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 26 Sep 2013, 13:32

Why? Do you suppose that something as complicated as the the planet's climate can ever be completely known?

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 27 Sep 2013, 07:05

While Murdoch exists, nothing will be done. You need to get ready for total collapse, unless Murdoch has his total collapse soon. Story.............

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 27 Sep 2013, 12:03

So now we have it, the most important document since
"On the Absorption and Radiation of Heat by Gases and Vapours, and on the Physical Connexion of Radiation, Absorption, and Conduction" by John Tyndall in Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London, Volume 151, pages 1-36, 1861

http://www.climatechange2013.org/images ... ep2013.pdf

Tarrel · Post by **Tarrel** » 27 Sep 2013, 12:24

...and it's the lead article on the BBC news website.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 27 Sep 2013, 13:28

And the lead item on Radio 4 News at One rolled out Bob Carter, Aussie denialist:

http://www.desmogblog.com/2013/07/09/au ... ial-groups

What is it with the BBC?

Earlier this morning on Radio 4 Horbin had explained that they had failed to find a single working scientist in Britain who opposed the IPCC position. So they turn to a retired and sacked from his unpaid post Australian!

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 27 Sep 2013, 13:41

I suppose some people will point to the 95% certainty and say that shows it's not certain - but it will be only those who are willing to fly on a plane after the mechanic has told them he's 95% certain the plane will crash.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 27 Sep 2013, 14:27

biffvernon wrote:So now we have it, the most important document since
"On the Absorption and Radiation of Heat by Gases and Vapours, and on the Physical Connexion of Radiation, Absorption, and Conduction" by John Tyndall in Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London, Volume 151, pages 1-36, 1861

http://www.climatechange2013.org/images ... ep2013.pdf

Important but could we open a book on the likelihood of meaningful action as a result of its publication?

1000/1 against any significant policy or attitude change by minority worlders.