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This film was made on the Planet Zog where the inhabitants behave in a very different way to us on Planet Earth, so let us not be hasty in our judgements. (I resisted watching it at first but I'm glad I did. It ends on an interesting note.) http://www.minds.com/blog/view/201538/q ... er-on-film
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It's extracts from Our Daily Bread
Whole film available here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVkieJ_Wj64
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Blimey, you're right. It isn't planet Zog at all!
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That's called civilisation.
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Euch! I'm even more disgusted by humanity than I was before. :(
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Just looks like food to me.
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Wot, even the last shot :twisted: ?
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clv101 wrote:Whole film available here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVkieJ_Wj64
How unsurprisingly depressing.
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RenewableCandy wrote:Wot, even the last shot :twisted: ?
Depends how hungry you are :twisted:

Oddly enough that fatty at the end is probably the result of eating too many sugar and wheat based products rather than too much meat. It is a seriously biased piece of film though and no doubt has propelled many teenage girls in to a heartfelt embrace of veganism.

Well, first world, middle-class teenage girls who can afford an alternative and get to choose. Most of the rest of the planet just eats whatever is available.
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emordnilap wrote:
clv101 wrote:Whole film available here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVkieJ_Wj64
How unsurprisingly depressing.
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JavaScriptDonkey wrote:
RenewableCandy wrote:Wot, even the last shot :twisted: ?
Depends how hungry you are :twisted:

Oddly enough that fatty at the end is probably the result of eating too many sugar(1) and wheat based products rather than too much meat. ...............
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That does not mean burgers are OK. "The play I'm making is not sugar per se, the play I'm making is insulin," he says. Foodstuffs that raise insulin levels in the body too high are the problem. He blames insulin for 75% to 80% of all obesity. Insulin is the hormone, he says, which causes energy to be stored in fat cells. Sugar energy is the most egregious of those, but there are three other categories: trans fats (which are on the way out), alcohol (which children do not drink) and dietary amino acids.

These amino acids are found in corn-fed American beef. "In grass-fed beef, like in Argentina, there are no problems," he said. "And that's why the Argentinians are doing fine. The Argentinians have a meat-based diet … I love their meat. It is red, it's not marbled, it's a little tougher to cut but it's very tasty. And it's grass-fed. That's what cows are supposed to eat – grass.

"We [in the US] feed them corn and the reason is twofold – one, we don't have enough land and, two, when you feed them corn they fatten up. It usually takes 18 months to get a cow from birth to slaughter. Today it takes six weeks and you get all that marbling in the meat. That's muscle insulin resistance. That animal has the same disease we do, it's just that we slaughter them before they get sick."
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The protein unique to wheat, gliadin, a component of gluten proteins, is odd in that it is degraded in the human gastrointestinal tract to polypeptides (small proteins) that have the ability to cross into the brain and bind to morphine receptors. These polypeptides have been labeled gluteomorphin or exorphins (exogenous morphine-like compounds) by National Institutes of Health researchers. Wheat exorphins cause a subtle euphoria in some people. This may be part of the reason wheat products increase appetite and cause addiction-like behaviors in susceptible people. It also explains why a drug company has made application to the FDA for the drug naltrexone, an oral opiate-blocking drug ordinarily used to keep heroine addicts drug-free, for weight loss. Block the brain morphine receptor and weight loss (about 22 pounds over 6 months) results. But there’s only one food that yields substantial morphine-like compounds: yes, wheat.
Ouch!, we have been told for years that tough meat is bad (as it needs more effort to make it palatable), and marbling means tender and flavoursome meat. The problem then is, the supermarkets source only products that sell, will customers buy tough meat?

As for the wheat, it appears to be a problem caused by modern wheats, never mind whether they are GM varieties or not.
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Well, some of ouir friends and neighbours are Argies and they do a damn fine BBQ. The secret is to buy that tough non-marbled meat and then get out a big wooden mallet with pointy bits, and bash the crap out of it before grilling.

And yeah, I've always had my suspicions about wheat.
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Here's something to help with food selection. It does indicate wheat is not too much of a problem if eaten as part of a balanced diet. Nevertheless, I have just ordered 10kg of rye flour.
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It's the Chorleywood Process that gives wheat a bad name.
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biffvernon wrote:It's the Chorleywood Process that gives wheat a bad name.
And the modern varieties of wheat, forcibly evolved for unnaturally high gluten content.

Supermarket breads make me feel queasy (especially after eating some!)
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