GM foods story in papers

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 01 Aug 2013, 18:10

I still get the login popup. How long before PS gets fracked?

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 01 Aug 2013, 18:38

woodburner wrote:I still get the login popup. How long before PS gets fracked?

Are the Admins backing it up regularly?

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 01 Aug 2013, 19:11

No one has ever mentioned to me about backing up anything. Perhaps the ones above us do that!

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 01 Aug 2013, 19:37

kenneal - lagger wrote:No one has ever mentioned to me about backing up anything. Perhaps the ones above us do that!

Is that the ones who we were testing the software upgrade for, years ago?

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 02 Aug 2013, 03:32

Dunno!!

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 02 Aug 2013, 09:43

GMwatch.org available again.

Some hope for the future.

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 25 Aug 2013, 06:50

GM expert, Seralini, to visit UK in September. Article.....

Britain as the weak link in European resistance to GM. That’s not because the British people want GM – they overwhelmingly do not – but because our government is rabidly pro-GM and is moving in lockstep with US government interests on the issue. Environment secretary Owen Paterson acts as a mouthpiece for GM industry talking points, even promising that the UK will ignore opposition to GM from the rest of Europe and “go it alone” on GM.

There is some hope of European (efsa) support,

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 25 Aug 2013, 18:00

kenneal - lagger wrote:If we were having the tobacco debate now it would seem that Owen Patterson would support the tobacco industry "scientists" rather than the independent researchers who said that there was a problem with tobacco.

Don't give him ideas, he might start trying to reverse the smoking ban!

featherstick · Post by **featherstick** » 25 Aug 2013, 21:08

JohnB wrote:
mohonea wrote:i agree with johny b! we are just some working ants in a big political strategy!
Anyone who calls me Johny is liable to have my avatar let loose on them

Give you a nasty byte!

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 25 Aug 2013, 21:24

10 things you need to know about the seralini study

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 26 Aug 2013, 01:43

emordnilap wrote:10 things you need to know about the seralini study

Monsanto proving study did not show damaging effects........

The findings

Séralini’s findings were alarming: both GM maize NK603 and Roundup caused serious kidney and liver damage and an increased and earlier development of tumours, leading to an increased rate of mortality.4

These serious effects had not shown up in Monsanto’s 90-day test because it was too short. Serious diseases like organ damage and tumours take time to develop and become obvious.

An objective analysis of Séralini’s study would conclude that long-term chronic toxicity and carcinogenicity studies are needed on all GM foods before they are commercialized.

Obviously a two year study is not relevant when compared to the study of the evidence carried out by Paterson and Cameron in no time at all, and which concluded GM foods are beneficial.

A consequence of the diseases caused, if Seralini's conclusions are correct, is the load placed on health services dealing with the problem. The government should have in mind a tax on GM foods to fund what will be expensive treatments.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 29 Aug 2013, 14:04

AndySir wrote:I'm sorry, did you just dismiss the ethics of triage as a rationalisation for using triage? As if that's what doctors wanted to do anyway and they just found an excuse for it?

As for your insurance analogy, I don't believe taxes are based on the risk that you will need to 'claim', tobacco taxes or otherwise. This is how American medical insurance works, and I'm genuinely surprised to hear you speak positively of it. Taxes are supposed to be collected based on ability to pay and allocated based on need. Given that need has always and will likely always exceed the taxes, some prioritisation is required. Prioritising on the basis of greatest benefit is a reasonable moral proposition. Distorting that system based on greatest contributions I do not find a moral proposition.

I thought you were on the left of the spectrum, Steve... economically anyway.

My politics are not contained by your narrow definitions of "left" and "right" Andysir. And, by the way, this thread is now split.

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 03 Sep 2013, 07:23

Tesco continues its caring approach to its customers

more......

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 19 Sep 2013, 15:15

For our American friends.

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 19 Sep 2013, 18:12

We need a traitor brand list for the UK.