Anti Fracking protestors block Sussex drilling operation

gug · Post by **gug** » 28 Jul 2013, 07:23

anyone who is remotely positive for anything like fracking is either ill informed or corrupt.

gug · Post by **gug** » 28 Jul 2013, 07:32

JavaScriptDonkey wrote:I doubt it is illegal.

Blocking a public highway is illegal as is attempting to barricade private land. Like it or loathe it the Police have a right to use reasonable force to enforce the law.

Why can't the protestors protest with out getting in the way of everyone else?

Christ, what a dick.
I vos just following ze orders!

They only have a "right' if you stand by and let them.

This kind of dull compliant attitude is hilarious.

You can protest, as long as you dont actually want to make a difference.
Tell that to Rosa Parks, Gandhi, Mandela etc etc.

If you cant see the level of corruption that would allow Lord Browne (lovely character, look into him) to not only be allowed to get away with this but even get his chums to give him tax breaks for doing it, then you've gotta be pretty stupid.

No wonder i dont bother with powerswitch anymore.

I invite you to go beyond powerswitch, watch gasland or any other documentary evidence of the effects of fracking and then see if you still think its a worthwhile risk to actually do anything about.

By all means reply, i'll maybe read it if i bother checking in on powerswitch in another 6 months or so.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 28 Jul 2013, 11:59

gug wrote: Christ, what a dick.

Possibly. But JSD has his place in the ecosystem, reminding us that the planet is populated by those who are bonkers and forcing us to be careful that our arguments are correct in logic and based in fact.

I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt so assume that he/she is a really nice and sensible person and is performing this role for our ultimate benefit.

Stay with us, Gug.

Here's a nice bit of community cinema to take one's mind off the cares of the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WQKYXsY_iM#at=347

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 28 Jul 2013, 21:14

My favourite celeb just tweeted:

Bianca Jagger ‏@BiancaJagger
I just visited #Balcombe where i met with a group of concerned Sussex citizens, who are camping by the drilling site. They oppose #Fracking

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 28 Jul 2013, 21:20

Is that significant?

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 28 Jul 2013, 21:54

No.

I just like Bianca Jagger as she is the only famous person ever to have retweeted one of my tweets. I feel a one-ness with her.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 28 Jul 2013, 22:48

Slightly more seriously: Oil, gas and fracking Lincolnshire, Leicestershire, Surrey and Balcombe http://biffvernon.blogspot.co.uk/

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 29 Jul 2013, 08:33

biffvernon wrote:No.

I just like Bianca Jagger as she is the only famous person ever to have retweeted one of my tweets. I feel a one-ness with her.

I can see why gug goes elsewhere.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 29 Jul 2013, 08:38

Don't worry, he has a sense of humour. My link was more serious.

Blue Peter · Post by **Blue Peter** » 29 Jul 2013, 11:25

Biff,

Why do the oil and gas migrate upwards from the source rock to the reservoir rock? Is it due to water pushing them up?

Peter.

Post by **clv101** » 29 Jul 2013, 11:46

Blue Peter wrote:Biff,

Why do the oil and gas migrate upwards from the source rock to the reservoir rock? Is it due to water pushing them up?

Peter.

Yep, oil/gas is lighter than the water that displaces it.

Blue Peter · Post by **Blue Peter** » 29 Jul 2013, 12:08

clv101 wrote:Yep, oil/gas is lighter than the water that displaces it.

So, is this another condition, along with the 3 types of rocks? Or is there always water pressure?

Peter.

Post by **clv101** » 29 Jul 2013, 12:19

I think there's basically always water present, assuming the rocks have some porosity.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 29 Jul 2013, 13:34

Yes, rock pore spaces and cracks are always filled with something and if connected the water flows downwards and the oil and gas floats up, gas ending up on top. In a shale there isn't much movement so most of the gas stays trapped (until some fool comes along and breaks it up by fracking).

The point about my blog at http://biffvernon.blogspot.co.uk/ was to draw attention to the fact that there's pretty much sure to be some oil or gas rich shale below any conventional oilfield. The deeper parts tend to have gas rather than oil. Under some of the small UK onshore oilfields there's two or three thousand metres of shale that is likely to be rich in gas. The oil companies seem to have the tactic of applying for planning permission to explore for conventional oil in reservoir rocks above, boldly declaring that they are nothing to do with fracking (fingers crossed behind back where the local councillors are too dumb to look).

I live in one such place so if I was an American and our laws were like American laws I could be getting rich. Fortunately, I'm not, they're not and I won't be.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 30 Jul 2013, 08:37

Worth raising at least one eyebrow over:

Residents were quick to advise that the corporate structure of Cuadrilla – the firm drilling in Balcombe is designed to limit legal and financial liability in the case of a spill, leak or contamination. Each well site is operating as its own discrete legal entity, with financial liability capped at 37k according to residents. If correct, this is a gross over sight by regulatory authorities, and legal mechanisms should be considered to secure a bond against the corporation or certificate of title to deal with any spills and remediation. More info here: http://frack-off.org.uk/who-are-cuadril ... -overview/ We need to paint fracking as simply the latest phase in the disaster capitalism mode of production, where environmental costs of production are enforced on the taxpayer, and profits are privatised. Oh – and did I mention Cuadrilla are registered in the Caymans for tax purposes! - See more at: http://occupynewsnetwork.co.uk/?p=6245# ... t9pyw.dpuf