Thatcher dies

nexus · Post by **nexus** » 08 Apr 2013, 19:06

...No surprise there.....

cubes · Post by **cubes** » 08 Apr 2013, 19:21

terrorist/freedom fighter? they both kill people, both are wrong.

peaceful_life · Post by **peaceful_life** » 08 Apr 2013, 20:29

jonny2mad wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:
George Galloway wrote: Margaret Thatcher described Nelson Mandela as a "terrorist". I was there. I saw her lips move. May she burn in the hellfires.
He was a terrorist so she was right there mr george "the cat" galloway

I voted for her, remember the three day week and all the strikes throughout the 1970s the IMF being called in with the government before her, I liked her

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Day_Week

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_Discontent

Emmeline Pankhurst?

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 08 Apr 2013, 20:35

jonny2mad wrote: I liked her

Yep, I can believe that.

Meanwhile, for facebook people: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Privatis ... 9198754701

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 08 Apr 2013, 20:39

Orgreave, South Yorkshire, June 18th 1984

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » 08 Apr 2013, 20:39

biffvernon wrote:
jonny2mad wrote: I liked her
Yep, I can believe that.

Meanwhile, for facebook people: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Privatis ... 9198754701

So, Facebook has got its uses after all then.

madibe · Post by **madibe** » 08 Apr 2013, 20:49

Hi Biff - not seen that photo before. Shocking. But one wonders about civilisation when a mounted police officer does this. Is that Maggies doing....or the morals of the individual?

Mmmmm

Aside. She was a twat.

stumuzz · Post by **stumuzz** » 08 Apr 2013, 21:03

A world class leader. I was and still am a great admirer. She shifted the centre ground under the feet of her less than able opponents.

I will donate to a memorial for a statue in Grantham for her.

Top rate of tax when she came to power in 1979. 98%...shudder.

JavaScriptDonkey · Post by **JavaScriptDonkey** » 08 Apr 2013, 22:07

A old woman, mother and grandmother died today.

Criticise her policies if you will but dance on her grave? You should be ashamed.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 08 Apr 2013, 22:13

JavaScriptDonkey wrote:A old woman, mother and grandmother died today.

Criticise her policies if you will but dance on her grave? You should be ashamed.

That demeans her. Would she want to be remembered first for being an old woman, mother and grandmother?

Yesterday from the BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22018823

The New York Times was sharply criticised when its obituary of a rocket scientist began by mentioning her "mean beef stroganoff". It was rewritten. The story holds lessons for obituary writers - but also illustrates the complexities of their art.

I think she'd rather be remember as somebody who polarised the population of the UK into people who loved her and people who despised her. Nobody denies her impact on the history of this country.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 08 Apr 2013, 22:17

Well that's PowerSwitch neatly divided with the handful of usual suspects showing their right-wing credentials. Funny how all the comments I see on facebook and twitter are of one opinion, but then one gets to choose one's facebook friends and twitter followers.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 08 Apr 2013, 22:44

But hey, credit where it's due, here's another of he great speeches: http://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/108237

cubes · Post by **cubes** » 08 Apr 2013, 22:50

I'm sure you love us really - anyway, it makes for interesting discussions like this one. Wouldn't life be boring if everyone agreed?

MrG · Post by **MrG** » 08 Apr 2013, 22:57

maudibe wrote:Not posted for a while....but this news makes it a must do.

Dance, sing and be merry.

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me neither. Still drinking. Cheers maudibe!

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 08 Apr 2013, 23:59

biffvernon wrote:Well that's PowerSwitch neatly divided with the handful of usual suspects showing their right-wing credentials. Funny how all the comments I see on facebook and twitter are of one opinion, but then one gets to choose one's facebook friends and twitter followers.

Here's what I've just posted on Facebook:

I was a Tory voter at the time, living in Berkshire and reading my parent's Daily Mail, and later The Times. It seemed like she was doing a good job, at least to start with. Something needed to be done, as the unions seemed out of control, and British industry was over manned and inefficient, but that doesn't mean that the right things were done. And as for all those leftie councils naming roads and buildings after Nelson Mandela! It wasn't until the late 80s that I started discovering anything about environmental issues, and it was a gradual process over about 15 years. I always thought that it was stupid that the Tories got into power and bashed the unions, and then Labour got in and bashed the bosses. Why didn't they just look at all the options, and do the most sensible thing? But it seems that since Thatcher, we've had two main parties with little difference between them, who just market ideas that they think will win votes, and where all the top people come from what may as well be another planet, compared to the lives of most people. Ed Milliband was saying today that she changed politics for ever for all the main parties, as though he approved of that part of her influence. I think it's with hindsight that I can see she did a lot of damage. She took action on things that needed acting on, but not necessarily in the right way, and people are still suffering the effects today. It seems to me that the biggest disaster she left behind was a lack of people care. Things were done to sort out problems that had no regard for the people it affected, and it's still happening.

I don't like the idea of people being so happy about it, but it does show what an effect the lack of people care had on people, and I don't think you can really blame them.