Planned Somerset nuclear plant on hold ? or not ?

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 15 Mar 2013, 02:32

alex wrote:........

Therefore why embark on such a project when one could have been built as an interim measure using proven methodology. ...

Shear desperation and it's the only one on offer!!

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 15 Mar 2013, 12:26

Bristol Channel Tsunami!

They're waiting for one side of one of the Canary Islands to collapse: when it does, and it'll be "quite soon" in terms of nuclear power clean-up times, erm well you get the idea.

Blue Peter · Post by **Blue Peter** » 15 Mar 2013, 12:32

RenewableCandy wrote:Bristol Channel Tsunami!

They're waiting for one side of one of the Canary Islands to collapse: when it does, and it'll be "quite soon" in terms of nuclear power clean-up times, erm well you get the idea.

Remembering back to the Horizon programme, it's La Palma, but it's the side that faces the US, not Bristol,

Peter.

P.S. Though I also remember someone saying that the Horizon programme was not that accurate.

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 15 Mar 2013, 12:53

You're probably right about it facing away from us, but the Canaries are small islands, and waves travel outwards in circular style unless interrupted by something much larger than their wavelength (roughly. Says good ol' Huygens). Thus, diffraction may do for us.

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 15 Mar 2013, 16:46

I think I read somewhere that it could get to the US and then head back our way.

Anyway, I'd quite like the option of being able to move back to West Somerset sometime if I want to.

Post by **adam2** » 19 Mar 2013, 08:28

Planning permision for the proposed new plant at Hinkly is expected to be granted today.

This of course does not mean that it will be built, considerable doubts remain as to the finances.
And the present situation in Cyprus, though not directly relevant, does add to uncertainity.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 19 Mar 2013, 08:35

adam2 wrote: And the present situation in Cyprus, though not directly relevant, does add to uncertainity.

Yeah, it scuppers the idea that Hinkley C will be financed from Russian oligarch money

Post by **adam2** » 19 Mar 2013, 13:20

Now approved, but again note that this only gives planning permision for it to be built, which is by no means the same as saying that it will be built.

alex · Post by **alex** » 29 Mar 2013, 08:14

This is a take on the current impasse by THE INDEPENDENT

Bit long but well worth a read.

Alex

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 29 Mar 2013, 08:37

Hinkley C is supposed to open in early 2019, but each delay makes this timetable less realistic. Mr Cann declines to comment on whether the first electricity can still be generated in six years’ time, but many industry observers are now quoting 2020 as a likelier opening date.

Mr Cann gives some details of what his team will have to do to shut down the site should negotiations collapse. Trees will have to be replanted and the site returned to its previous condition. At least that will please the badgers.

Nice to see that I'm not the only one suggesting that it will never be built.

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 29 Mar 2013, 12:19

At the moment, the Treasury, perhaps emboldened by a belief that shale gas could prove a solution to the country’s energy problem, is refusing to pay more than £85 per megawatt hour.

What a delightful choice

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 30 Mar 2013, 01:55

I don't think that anyone in government realises the unrest that will ensue when the reality of fourteen fracking sites per square mile and the thousands of heavy lorry trips per site is manifest in our countryside. The Newbury and Winchester Bypass environmental protests will be as nought when Swampy is joined by the middle and upper classes fighting to protect the value of their very expensive homes in the countryside.

The first political party to come out with a promise of a total ban on fracking will win the next election by a landslide. We have seen a few local councils banning wind turbines on their land. It will become a total ban on fracking throughout the country.

Shale gas won't be more than a temporary phenomenon in England and will be confined, initially, to the North as there are far fewer Conservative and LibDem held seats to be lost up there. Once those areas are drained and the anti fracking movement gains hold and knowledge as the fracking tide moves south the real resistance will start.

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 30 Mar 2013, 16:07

The first political party to come out with a promise of a total ban on fracking will win the next election by a landslide.

Bad Metaphor Day!

Tarrel · Post by **Tarrel** » 30 Mar 2013, 17:36

JohnB wrote:
RenewableCandy wrote:Is that her real name ?
Yup

So why isn't she building a nice new LNG terminal, or a bio-digester?

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 30 Mar 2013, 18:59

JohnB wrote:
At the moment, the Treasury, perhaps emboldened by a belief that shale gas could prove a solution to the country’s energy problem, is refusing to pay more than £85 per megawatt hour.
What a delightful choice

Perhaps a good strategy would be for us to pretend that fracking will make energy really cheap, thus scuppering any chance that the Treasury will up the nuke subsidy. The when EDF have irretrievably pulled out we can get on with the business of making sure fracking goes nowhere after all.