Deer plague

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 11 Mar 2013, 20:25

stevecook172001 wrote:I hate to break this to you. But I suspect you may already have an inkling anyway.

It's not drugs that's the problem, it's not alcohol that's the problem and it's not even guns that are the problem. Or, at least, not primarily. Your problems with all of the above are merely secondary consequences of your real problem;

your ******-up, sick culture.

As compared to the Utopian perfection that is the UK?
Really the US is so vast that there is not one culture here. We have everything from the Amish in Pennsylvania and Iowa to the jet setters in Hollywood and the Crips and Bloods down in the hood.
I don't want to disrespect you man but you just don't understand.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 11 Mar 2013, 21:11

vtsnowedin wrote:
stevecook172001 wrote:I hate to break this to you. But I suspect you may already have an inkling anyway.

It's not drugs that's the problem, it's not alcohol that's the problem and it's not even guns that are the problem. Or, at least, not primarily. Your problems with all of the above are merely secondary consequences of your real problem;

your ******-up, sick culture.
As compared to the Utopian perfection that is the UK?
Really the US is so vast that there is not one culture here. We have everything from the Amish in Pennsylvania and Iowa to the jet setters in Hollywood and the Crips and Bloods down in the hood.
I don't want to disrespect you man but you just don't understand.

Don't worry i take no disrespect form your comment. However, i do understand and as for the UK; it is actually very much like the US. Far more than it is like the rest of northern Europe in fact. Sad to say. So, yes, my culture is pretty f***ed-up as well for most of the same reasons.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 12 Mar 2013, 11:07

ujoni08 wrote:I've never said this before, to anybody on this forum, but that wasn't called for, UE. I usually like your posts, but that one was wide of the mark.
Sorry

Maybe not called for, but understandable.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 12 Mar 2013, 12:35

I have a serious problem with the United States, culturally and ideologically. And sometimes this means I can get very angry with individuals who are just individuals, and not the United States. I'm sorry, this was out of order.

UE

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 12 Mar 2013, 14:56

I feel the same sometimes.

JavaScriptDonkey · Post by **JavaScriptDonkey** » 12 Mar 2013, 20:39

How can you have a problem with the US?

I mean do you object to its existence or the policies of the current President or are there specific things that individual Americans do?

Have you been to any part of the US or is your problem based solely on media reports?

Lay it on me - I'm interested.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 12 Mar 2013, 22:02

JavaScriptDonkey wrote:How can you have a problem with the US?

I mean do you object to its existence or the policies of the current President or are there specific things that individual Americans do?

I already told you that. I have problem with the mainstream culture and the ideology that underlies American society, as well as with a lot of the more bizarre sub-cultures.

Have you been to any part of the US

Not since I was 4, for 9 months in Texas mainly. I've been to Canada several times more recently.

or is your problem based solely on media reports?

It is based on everything I know about US culture, which is quite a lot, and one really does not have to go there to know these things. It is made abundantly clear. It has little to do with media bias, because real Americans I meet online tend to fit the same broad picture.

Take the example of Guantanamo Bay under GWB. In this case, a quite deliberate message was sent out: "We are above the law. We are above ethics and justice. We hold the most power on this planet, and anyone who seriously challenges us will be sent to this place, beyond the protection any laws." This was not mere propaganda. It was actually being done.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 12 Mar 2013, 22:32

UndercoverElephant wrote: Take the example of Guantanamo Bay under GWB. In this case, a quite deliberate message was sent out: "We are above the law. We are above ethics and justice. We hold the most power on this planet, and anyone who seriously challenges us will be sent to this place, beyond the protection any laws." This was not mere propaganda. It was actually being done.

Past tense? I think the place is still open for business. One of the worse stains on the US nationhood.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 12 Mar 2013, 23:43

I don't know as a comparison of USA vs, UK treatment of POWs will come out in your favor. The prison hulks in New York harbor during the American revolution still leave a stench on history.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 13 Mar 2013, 01:54

Getting back OT, I saw a bunch of three roe deer in a field on the way home earlier. I think they were bucks as they all had antlers.

AndySir · Post by **AndySir** » 13 Mar 2013, 07:03

Marek Larwood used to open his set by yelling out "Who hates Americans?" (Big cheer from the audience). Then.... "Who hates African-Americans?"

Oh dear.

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 13 Mar 2013, 07:23

As KL hinted, get back on topic. Start another topic for the political scrapping.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 13 Mar 2013, 10:26

woodburner wrote:As KL hinted, get back on topic.

OK.

http://tinyurl.com/cg6nfo7

ujoni08 · Post by **ujoni08** » 13 Mar 2013, 12:07

Signed

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 13 Mar 2013, 15:51

Not signed.

I don't really understand the problem. Their natural predators are extinct. By culling them, we are taking the vacant place (which needs to be taken) and actually killing them in a more humane way. The natural way is for them to be chased down by a pack of wolves and then die, usually from blood loss from multiple injuries.

Nobody is going to agree to the widespread re-introduction of wolves to the UK, so why not just shoot them and use the meat? What's the benefit of contraception??

I mean, hey, why not establish an "animal health service" and have retirement parks for elderly deer!