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vtsnowedin wrote:And yes I don't doubt that bicycles can go far but what is practical for a couple with their child in the winter?
This is one of the problems - we tend to buy and use a single, one size fits all vehicle. One week a year the family head off camping to the lakes with the dogs - so they need a large SUV. The other 51 weeks of the year that same, now unsuitable vehicle, is used for a single occupancy urban commute.
stevecook172001 wrote:In other words, the single, biggest and lowest-tech solution to fuel consumption is to get more people on to fewer and larger vehicles wherever possible.

Our understandable obsession with trying to get lower mpg on single or low occupancy vehicles is all very well, but is also an expression of part of a larger problem of the continued pursuit of individualism. A pursuit that we can no longer afford.
Well said.
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stevecook172001 wrote:[Our understandable obsession with trying to get lower mpg on single or low occupancy vehicles is all very well, but is also an expression of part of a larger problem of the continued pursuit of individualism. A pursuit that we can no longer afford. Things are not yet quite bad enough for people to realise that, though.
:roll: I'm sure you mean higher mpg or lower fuel consumption per mile.
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vtsnowedin wrote:
stevecook172001 wrote:[Our understandable obsession with trying to get lower mpg on single or low occupancy vehicles is all very well, but is also an expression of part of a larger problem of the continued pursuit of individualism. A pursuit that we can no longer afford. Things are not yet quite bad enough for people to realise that, though.
:roll: I'm sure you mean higher mpg or lower fuel consumption per mile.
yep... :D
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/property/ ... 00-by-2020

And this is what the steep decline in domestic production translates into.

According to energyhelpline.com, annual bills are set to rise to £3000 per year by 2020

Holy ****! :shock:
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If supply is constrained then price will rise to whatever it takes to kill demand. There is no sensible way to know what that price will be in eight years time.
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The price in the future will be a bigger portion of the energy you have available than you have now
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Biff wrote"
If supply is constrained then price will rise to whatever it takes to kill demand.
It will rise to what it takes to Balance demand with supply not kill it outright.


Ziggy wrote" [/quote]

The price in the future will be a bigger portion of the energy you have available than you have now[/quote]

The price of energy will take a larger portion of the Money you have available in the future and you will be able to afford much less of everything else.
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ujoni08 wrote:VW were going to make an L1 (1 litre/100KM) with a tandem seating arrangement:
Instead they're developing the world's most expensive FUV.
“This decision will ensure sustainable growth for the company,” said Bentley Chief Executive Wolfgang Schreiber.
Aaaargh!
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What you really need is one of these
http://www.ballerride.com/2008/05/22/mercedes-diamond/
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