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How will oil depletion affect the way we live? What will the economic impact be? How will agriculture change? Will we thrive or merely survive?

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I expect that drilling for dry fracked gas will stay at very low levels until the surplus they have at present is used up and gas prices rise to comparable levels for oil on an energy equivalency basis. Then they will happily go back to drill the shale on a systematic basis and pump out every cubic foot available at a rate that keeps prices and profits maxed out. There is no point in drilling it now at a loss as long as you can hold the drilling rights for later.
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I saw on the news tonight that the amount of gas being flared off from the shale oil fields is visible from space and equates to the total energy use of Chicago and another US city that I can't remember. So much for Global Warming.

There was also a piece on Countryfile about Biomass burning and how Drax is going over to 50% biomass burning to keep their CO2 emissions down. They're importing a large proportion of it from Canada!! And they're still chucking 60% to 70% of it up their cooling chimneys as steam. At least they will be burning 100% biomass in any one boiler so the ash can be used as a fertiliser. One can only hope!

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Nothing will change. All policies are geared to allowing BAU to continue. This will continue until it is no longer physically possible. That is all.
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Very good article although I think they have overdone the picture a bit with the density of well heads. They probably just got the scales wrong. Although the density in the States is high, at about 14 to the square mile, it is not as high as shown in the picture, which is important where you are impugning someone else's honesty.
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That's been around since 2011, but thanks for posting the link.
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Oh frack that's Class :D :twisted:
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Great!! About sums up us and our situation but not many people can see it.
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Jessica Ernst gave an excellent talk about her fracked-up life to us in our local town. Not a great turn-out but these things build slowly over here and advertising can be expensive.

I spoke to a few people who were new to the situation and pointed out that we're all to blame - each individual - for the whole fracking mess. They either didn't get it or didn't want to get it, even though I explained quite fully what I was getting at.

She's at Stormont and the University of Belfast today, 6/3/2013, Fylde tomorrow, Balcombe Friday, Dublin Sunday, Maynooth and Dublin Monday.
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Methane releases from fracking down under. A 45 minute film:

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/ ... 725150.htm
The coal seam gas industry promotes itself as a cleaner carbon-fuel alternative; but how do we know this is true? Until now much of the information used to back this claim has come from the industry itself.

The problem is this "cleaner-greener" claim doesn't always square with experience on the ground. Next on Four Corners reporter Matthew Carney talks to farmers who've seen rivers bubble with methane, their bore water polluted with chemicals, while the reserves of ground water on their property have dropped alarmingly.

He also looks at the latest research that suggests the coal seam gas industry might be a much bigger greenhouse gas emitter than previously thought.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 82089.html
Fracking 'unlikely to give UK cheap gas', report says Cross-party group pours cold water on Osborne's hopes shale gas will solve energy problems
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The ASA rules:
In July 2012 Cuadrilla and their PR agency, PPS Group, created a “community newsletter” which was posted to thousands of households in Lancashire.

It contained claims about the safety of fracking which were evidently not sustainable, so local group Refracktion (www.refracktion.com) wrote to the ASA with a list of claims which it believed required scrutiny.

The ASA ruling, released on Wednesday 24th April 2013, identifies 21 ways in which the 8 page leaflet breaches the ASA’s advertising code on grounds including being misleading, misleading by omitting material information, making subjective claims, making claims without adequate substantiation, and exaggeration. More detail of these breaches is provided at the end of this article.

The ASA’s adjudication means that Cuadrilla’s “newsletter” may not appear again in its present form.
http://www.refracktion.com/index.php/li ... ewsletter/
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