featherstick wrote:No. Shoot it if it's wild and local legal conditions allow, stay on good terms with your neighbours if it belongs to one of them.
Not many wild cows left, really. And staying on good terms with neighbours, though irrelevant to the question, is a given.
I think you're talking aurochs.
Seriously though, I see your point, I just don't agree with it. We're here, we need to rub along, you don't put food out for foxes (i.e. chickens), I would if I could and would shoot the fox that came calling.
biffvernon wrote:I should milk the cow. Consider it an asset and make use of it till the farmer reclaims it.
Well, I've no use for milk; and the animal might not have been raped recently ('dry' ) anyway. 'Making use of it', especially after it's destroyed some of our crops, isn't on.
FYI A bull will have no interest in a cow that is not in heat and if in heat she will be willing." You can't rape the willing" is especially true of bovines as an unwilling cow can just walk out from under the bull which has no fingers or claws to hold her in position.
biffvernon wrote:I should milk the cow. Consider it an asset and make use of it till the farmer reclaims it.
Well, I've no use for milk; and the animal might not have been raped recently ('dry' ) anyway. 'Making use of it', especially after it's destroyed some of our crops, isn't on.
FYI A bull will have no interest in a cow that is not in heat and if in heat she will be willing." You can't rape the willing" is especially true of bovines as an unwilling cow can just walk out from under the bull which has no fingers or claws to hold her in position.
Yes, I'm well aware of that. I meant rape by humans, which is usually described euphemistically.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
Talking of stray animals, I had 5 sheep yesterday, this afternoon I have 12 and the neighbours say they haven't lost any.
All this talk about it being impossible to make money from farming is crap, I've only been doing it since Friday and I've already more than doubled my stock.
Catweazle wrote:Talking of stray animals, I had 5 sheep yesterday, this afternoon I have 12 and the neighbours say they haven't lost any.
All this talk about it being impossible to make money from farming is crap, I've only been doing it since Friday and I've already more than doubled my stock.
Catweazle capitalism: You have 5 sheep. Your neighbours offload their spavined infertile scrapie-infected reactors onto you one night and claim they're not theirs. : )
emordnilap wrote:
Well, I've no use for milk; and the animal might not have been raped recently ('dry' ) anyway. 'Making use of it', especially after it's destroyed some of our crops, isn't on.
FYI A bull will have no interest in a cow that is not in heat and if in heat she will be willing." You can't rape the willing" is especially true of bovines as an unwilling cow can just walk out from under the bull which has no fingers or claws to hold her in position.
Yes, I'm well aware of that. I meant rape by humans, which is usually described euphemistically.
vtsnowedin wrote:Let me quess. Your a life member of PETA?
Quess away. I'm not that right-wing.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
In answer to Steve, there are plenty of people who would be willing to get rid of the rabbits, me being one of them, but the land owner won't allow it.
In answer to Em, if an animal strays off common land onto your property it's your fault because it's up to you to fence against the common. If the animal came to any harm on your property, say it ate some yew, you would be liable for compensation. If an animal strays onto your land from anywhere else the farmer is liable but I think you would be in trouble if you shot it, from the RSPCA if no one else.
kenneal - lagger wrote:In answer to Em, if an animal strays off common land onto your property it's your fault because it's up to you to fence against the common. If the animal came to any harm on your property, say it ate some yew, you would be liable for compensation. If an animal strays onto your land from anywhere else the farmer is liable but I think you would be in trouble if you shot it, from the RSPCA if no one else.
But if my dog gets in amongst sheep, s/he would be shot and I would be told to come and collect the body. There's something not quite right here...
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
emordnilap wrote:
But if my dog gets in amongst sheep, s/he would be shot and I would be told to come and collect the body. There's something not quite right here...
A farmer once shot our cat because it annoyed his dog. He told us he was going to do it, then the cat disappeared.
You have a legal obligation to keep your dog under control at all times and out of control dogs have been known to maim and kill sheep. They have also been known to damage and cause abortions in cattle.
Sheep do not usually attack people or dogs even when they escape. Cattle have been known to cause harm to people and have been shot by the police or their owner when they have escaped and become a danger to people. A beast spoiling your lawn or your flower beds or even your vegetable garden would not be thought sufficient cause in law to shoot it.
Can I just bump this because even a townie like me knows that it's about this time of year that the sheep are pregnant and must vulnerable to that kind of thing.
Cumbria Police always put out a press-release about it.
RenewableCandy wrote:Can I just bump this because even a townie like me knows that it's about this time of year that the sheep are pregnant and must vulnerable to that kind of thing.
Cumbria Police always put out a press-release about it.
Here in Vermont if the dogs get into the sheep and kill them the town has to pay the Shepard for the sheep from the dog license fees. As a selectman I have had to go view dead sheep to see if it was dogs or coyotes that killed them. Easy to tell as dogs just worry them to death with little if any wounds on them where the coyotes do a professional job of it with a bite to the throat and an almost complete disassembly of the carcass with all the choice bits missing/consumed.
) anyway. 'Making use of it', especially after it's destroyed some of our crops, isn't on.
I'm not that right-wing.
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