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biffvernon wrote:Of course it's all made up.

Well, there may have been some historical basis for the Jesus Christ character, but whether real or not, his teachings, as told in the New Testament, are what Christians profess to follow, and to a large extent those teachings are pretty good. They certainly don't allow the killing of other folk, but then that had already been explicitly outlawed a long time earlier and written down in the Old Testament.

Thou shallt not kill.

Sadly, a great many people who claim to be Christians, don't follow what Christ taught. They manage to rationalise their shortcomings and failures by noting that man is not perfect, is 'fallen', but will gain redemption through their god's infinite forgiveness.

It's a handy get-out.
Christianity is a load of hypocritical bollocks designed to keep the masses in their place. The only difference between different religions is the type of bollocks that is employed. In Christainity's case, the hypocrisy stems from the fact that whilst the exhortation to turn the other cheek, love your enemy and, of course, unquestioningly acquiesce to the Word Of God as mediated by men in fancy dress, and so expect all the goodies in the next life as a consequence, that same Christianity was only actually able to physically spread over the face of the globe on the back of the sword, just like all nearly other religions.

In the end, power is the only thing that matters, either implied or actual. The people running the show have always known this full well. However, they rely on the mind enslaving power of religion to ensure that every one else doesn't cotton on.
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I don't disagree, but that doesn't stop a lot of the teachings of Jesus Christ being pretty good. It's a shame that so many Christians have ignored it.
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biffvernon wrote:On the other hand we live in a generally law-abiding society where these kind of events are very rare. I am more concerned about traffic accidents.
yup we do but so did ye ancient romans afore the fall of rome and the dark ages :shock: :shock:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgAZt65tjHo the vandals


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P51eICFx ... ure=fvwrel the Goths

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuM4Auxm ... re=related the Saxons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1yAxo94 ... ure=fvwrel the Vikings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKz5El-I ... re=related the Mongols


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-l6u-7I ... re=related the franks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuWHaxpz ... re=related the lombards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUJOBc_xWYA the huns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsHSbBxj ... re=related the dark ages

When you see innocent romans pottering about then barbarians popping up, think of the biff family, yes the lovely biff family :shock: god the futures going to be chilling
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I would love to live in a world where I didn't think that owning a gun would be a very good idea but I don't.

The only shame is that possessing a suitable weapon in the UK is very illegal.

Any political party that will give us handguns and allow the use of shotguns for home defence gets my vote.
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JavaScriptDonkey wrote:I would love to live in a world where I didn't think that owning a gun would be a very good idea but I don't.

The only shame is that possessing a suitable weapon in the UK is very illegal.

Any political party that will give us handguns and allow the use of shotguns for home defence gets my vote.
I can't imagine owning only one gun!!
Every rural household should have as a bare minimum a 22 long rifle. rifle , a shotgun from 20 to 12 gauge and a rifle 6mm to 9 mm or 243 Winchester to 35 Whelen if you prefer. If the situation arose I could place an adequate weapon with a sufficient supply of ammunition into the hands of each adult in the house and they already know how to use them.
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We don't have bears in this part of Lincolnshire.
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biffvernon wrote:We don't have bears in this part of Lincolnshire.
Well I've only bagged one bear and one moose in forty odd years of hunting but you never know what might turn up. The biggest rifle I have today is a 30-06 which is semi automatic with four shot clip. My favorite personal rifle is a 7x57 Mauser, bolt action or perhaps you would call it a .275 Rigby. Well suited to anything you might find in the UK.
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vtsnowedin wrote: Well suited to anything you might find in the UK.
We are sometimes troubled by rabbits and pigeons.
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biffvernon wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote: Well suited to anything you might find in the UK.
We are sometimes troubled by rabbits and pigeons.
And Foxes. Post crash you might add abandoned Rottweilers * to the list, especially if you keep sheep.

* Obviously this could be any large breed.
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biffvernon wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote: Well suited to anything you might find in the UK.
We are sometimes troubled by rabbits and pigeons.
Yes quite, and hence the need for the 22 and the shotgun. The 22 for small ground targets, rabbits and skunks etc. and the shotgun for winged fast moving targets. Pigeons and grouse.
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vtsnowedin wrote:
biffvernon wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote: Well suited to anything you might find in the UK.
We are sometimes troubled by rabbits and pigeons.
Yes quite, and hence the need for the 22 and the shotgun. The 22 for small ground targets, rabbits and skunks etc. and the shotgun for winged fast moving targets. Pigeons and grouse.
Ignore Biff, he's just engaging in a bit of reductio ad absurdum. He does that. Often.
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JavaScriptDonkey wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
biffvernon wrote:We are sometimes troubled by rabbits and pigeons.
Yes quite, and hence the need for the 22 and the shotgun. The 22 for small ground targets, rabbits and skunks etc. and the shotgun for winged fast moving targets. Pigeons and grouse.
Ignore Biff, he's just engaging in a bit of reductio ad absurdum. He does that. Often.
Oh I don't mind the keyboard jousting, find it entertaining actually. But I would never push Bif's buttons just to get a rise out of him.-)
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Catweazle wrote:
biffvernon wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote: Well suited to anything you might find in the UK.
We are sometimes troubled by rabbits and pigeons.
And Foxes.
We encourage the foxes. It saves us having to shoot rabbits.
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biffvernon wrote:
Catweazle wrote:
biffvernon wrote:We are sometimes troubled by rabbits and pigeons.
And Foxes.
We encourage the foxes. It saves us having to shoot rabbits.
Yes I'm sure that is fine today as long as the foxes aren't rabid. A Vermonter was on the news yesterday having dispatched a rabid fox on his front porch with an ice chopper. Has to take the shots as a precaution. Not fun.
Now post crash or WTSHTF if you prefer your going to want to reduce the fox population so you can eat more of the rabbit population. You should plan ahead and have the proper tools in hand.
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WTSHTF' - I personally think the S hit the F long ago (the '80s) but the fan is what - slow? huge? Whatever, the world started to properly and obviously wind down during the last decade and now we're all getting splattered, some more than others.

Also, this phrase 'post-crash'. It looks not like a crash - which implies a sudden stop - but more like being in a vehicle and the engine cutting out at the top of a long, bendy, scary incline. We'll keep going for quite a time using momentum as we go downhill.

The end of the road is shrouded in mist and there are lots of potholes on the way there.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
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