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It's not just the big shops in trouble :cry:
Owing to financial difficulties, CAT plc directors have announced that the Quarry Cafe and Quarry Shop, based in Machynlleth will be closed with immediate effect. The decision will affect 11 members of staff, who have been informed in a staff meeting. CAT plc directors would like to thank all the staff and customers who have supported the cafe and shop since they opened in 1979.

The Centre for Alternative Technology Charity Ltd, a separately run educational charity is committed to informing, inspiring and enabling practical solutions for sustainable living. Its charitable activities, including Graduate School, Visitor Centre, schools visits and research projects are not affected by the closure of the Quarry Cafe and Quarry Shop.
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That's a real shame. The shop had a fantastic selection of books. :cry:
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A touristy thingy without a caff? Unheard of.
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emordnilap wrote:A touristy thingy without a caff? Unheard of.
It's the cafe and shop on Machynlleth High St that are closing, not the excellent cafe and shop in the centre itself. Big shame, though...
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BrandNewGuy wrote:
emordnilap wrote:A touristy thingy without a caff? Unheard of.
It's the cafe and shop on Machynlleth High St that are closing, not the excellent cafe and shop in the centre itself. Big shame, though...
Right, phew, thanks. I thought a new paradigm had emerged. You know, one where people are interested in things for their own sake, rather than the selection of hot food and desserts available after rushing past them.

BTW, BNG: you're a bit of a lurker, aren't you? :wink:
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emordnilap wrote:
BrandNewGuy wrote:
emordnilap wrote:A touristy thingy without a caff? Unheard of.
BTW, BNG: you're a bit of a lurker, aren't you? :wink:
I am :-) Been reading the Forum regulalrly for a year or so. Fascinated by the subject of peak oil, no-growth economy and the non-industrial future. Hope to contribute some more...
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I never said welcome but I do now.

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In a society that is built on debt, when you spend two months out of work, and you have credit cards and rent and an overdraft to pay, you can easily be defeated. I had to admit defeat. I moved home, more experienced, maybe wiser, but completely broken. It took me a long time to pull myself back together. It took even longer to get the redundancy money owed to us by Head Entertainment. A two year court battle between us and the owners, entirely put together by our incredible floor manager Ev, a wonderfully funny, eccentric man, with a love of birds and woolen hats. He took them on, at an incredible cost to himself, and he won us the money in the end. But he shouldn’t have had to.
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2 weeks before xmas both of my brothers lost their jobs on the same day (company went bust)

Quite scary - its like the post PO no growth economy (and its effects) are starting to creep closer to home *gulp*
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We all got a letter saying that 2 of us will be made redundant due to a lack of work, but we're all working 12 hour days :?
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JavaScriptDonkey wrote:So was the Hurricane a war machine or an anti-war machine?

I'd argue that it saved far more lives than it took by defeating an aggressor and was therefore much more instrumental in securing peace than any amount of street protests.

Peace machine, clearly.
An eye-for-an-eye machine, clearly.
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It's no good making such judgements when the process is too far under way. One has to look at the causes of the war, which take one back to the Germany in the 20s and thus to the First World War and it's causes.
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biffvernon wrote:It's no good making such judgements when the process is too far under way. One has to look at the causes of the war, which take one back to the Germany in the 20s and thus to the First World War and it's causes.
Similarly, it's worth looking at the underlying causes of this retail meltdown. Mainly it's the banks loading debt onto clueless people through excessive mortgages, and consumer credit, hiding no growth in income - and that's been going on for twenty years.

Add to this mix unregulated WE ARE DODGY banks holdiing governments to ransom through ratings agencies - the very same ones that didn't stop the same banks now attack the taxpayers that saved them, in turn leading to hundreds of thousands of former pleblic sector workers no longer having or spending their wages. While the few businesses wanting to borrow to expand, or merely survive, can't, because the banks know conditions are going to get far worse.

And a current government that delights in driving the disabled young and poor to work for subsistence, in those corporate shops that are still trading their mostly tat wares. Then there's shop rental costs, and internet based warehouse competition that avoids corporation tax. And all this before peak oil really kicks in, though diesel nudging £1.50 a litre isn't helping much.

This is a debt deflation depression with worse to come. I suppose there's some lowlifes in an 'investment' bank who have shorted the entire high street. They'll already be sitting on squillions, eh.
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raspberry-blower wrote:
In a society that is built on debt, when you spend two months out of work, and you have credit cards and rent and an overdraft to pay, you can easily be defeated. I had to admit defeat. I moved home, more experienced, maybe wiser, but completely broken. It took me a long time to pull myself back together. It took even longer to get the redundancy money owed to us by Head Entertainment. A two year court battle between us and the owners, entirely put together by our incredible floor manager Ev, a wonderfully funny, eccentric man, with a love of birds and woolen hats. He took them on, at an incredible cost to himself, and he won us the money in the end. But he shouldn’t have had to.
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That's true.
SOME 61 PER CENT of people have €100 or less left at the end of the month once essential bills are paid, according to the results of the final 2012 ‘What’s Left’ tracker series conducted by the Irish league of Credit Unions (ILCU).
Furthermore, the report shows that 1.59 million people are left with €50 or less at the end of the month once the essential bills have been paid, and that 56 per cent of the adult population believe that the worst is yet to come in terms of financial hardship this year.
Note use of 'essential', though I don't know what is classed as such. SkyTV? :lol: Edit: found this:
Essential Bills

The highlights from the ILCU ‘What’s Left’ tracker found again that as expected respondents stated that mortgage and rent were the largest / most important bills for respondents ( 75%). This is followed by groceries (62%) and utilities (59%). Transport / car (25%), loan repayments (22%), health insurance (21%), credit cards (18%) followed by education fees (8%), telecoms / TV (6%) and childcare (6%)
More here.
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