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Types of real survivalists: 1. The bad man

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During SHTF I was jack of all trades. Resource gatherer, fighter and defender for my family and also just young man who wanted to enjoy life as good as possible in these problematic times.

In this and following articles I want to talk about different types of real survivalists. I dont want to judge here. If you have lived normal life you maybe only know glimpse of your survivor mindset. What kind of person you are when SHTF and you fight for survival. Important to know is that people show very different faces or mindsets when it comes to real survival.

Normal people like to think that everything can be solved with doing good, so they are trying to do good. Right now here it is not important are we talking about people who believe in God or not.

We all seen TV shows where preppers are showing their stuff, talking about their plans and things for time when SHTF.

I have seen lady, she is preparing for some possible scenario and showing her food storage and talk about her plans when SHTF. And she is storing whole lot of everything, much more than she and her family needs because as she explains there is gonna be whole lot of people who have lost everything and her plan is to help them.

I feel everything best for her, she is great person. Man who wants to help other people is good person, period.

But when SHTF she is going down. Sorry for being so “negative” but when people have to decide either they die or this nice lady for many answer is easy.
Couldn't agree more. Transition types who stock up to help the community will be the first to go as they become known as the hoarders by a desperate and terrified people.

In a real SHTF I reakon half the regulars on this board will be dead within a month or two.
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I think it would be worth the guns and anarchy merchants on this site readng Jared Diamond's new book, The World Until Yesterday.

I have started on this, and it is an analysis of large numbers of primitive societies and how their behaviour, moral codes etc. and driven by the local environment they find themselves in.

Some of them are indeed nasty, brutish and short. However, it all depends on local conditions as to what comes out of the wash. If transition town is putting in place the kind of community and resources that improves the chance of a stable form of lower organised society evolving then they need to be actively encouraged. They may fail, but if we don't try we will all fail.

In fact, I think it is the transition towners who have most to gain from reading it.
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I'll put it on my list.

It doesn't sound very applicable to a modern collapse though as primitive societies tend not to be so deeply in to overshoot.

Does he get as far as the Celtic hill forts and the collapse of the axe head 'currency'?
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Lord Beria3 wrote: In a real SHTF I reakon half the regulars on this board will be dead within a month or two.
Powerswitch dead pool! Nominate!
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Kentucky Fried Panda wrote:Powerswitch dead pool! Nominate!
The only problem with that is when someone starts taking it seriously :shock:. Or are you looking forward to playing the Clint Eastwood type hero, and coming to the rescue?
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Now that AIC has been sent packing, I don't really want to nominate anyone.
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The idea of a dead pool wasn't a wish list, but to bet on people who could be expected to die because of their lifestyle. So AIC may not have been a strong candidate, as I think he had a reasonable amount of insulation to see him through his heat pump not working!

It's the risk of a psychopathic killer turning it into a wish list that worries me!

Maybe putting people on the list would be an incentive for them to take positive action to get themselves off it :D.
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8) Perhaps we should turn it to a positive speculation list. Who is most likely to reach the age of 80 come what may. Some of us have less time left to put in to reach that goal but after 80 you have "Survived" and preps or level of Doom become moot. RC tops my list just on the sassy attitude.
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My plan is to beat Reg Dean, who recently died at the age of 110.
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JohnB wrote:
Kentucky Fried Panda wrote:Powerswitch dead pool! Nominate!
The only problem with that is when someone starts taking it seriously :shock:. Or are you looking forward to playing the Clint Eastwood type hero, and coming to the rescue?
Hell no, you're all on your own. :lol:
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vtsnowedin wrote:8) Perhaps we should turn it to a positive speculation list. Who is most likely to reach the age of 80 come what may. Some of us have less time left to put in to reach that goal but after 80 you have "Survived" and preps or level of Doom become moot. RC tops my list just on the sassy attitude.
Crikey :D

I think Kenneal would probably top my list if it's that way 'round. And yerself vt except perhaps the firearms thing in the States is a bit of a wildcard...that's, as looked at from here you understand.
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vtsnowedin wrote:8) Perhaps we should turn it to a positive speculation list. Who is most likely to reach the age of 80 come what may. Some of us have less time left to put in to reach that goal but after 80 you have "Survived" and preps or level of Doom become moot. RC tops my list just on the sassy attitude.

The members most likely to survive until they are 80 are those who are very nearly 80 now !
I think that virtualy all of us are much younger than that, but there must be a few older members.
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RenewableCandy wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:8) Perhaps we should turn it to a positive speculation list. Who is most likely to reach the age of 80 come what may. Some of us have less time left to put in to reach that goal but after 80 you have "Survived" and preps or level of Doom become moot. RC tops my list just on the sassy attitude.
Crikey :D

I think Kenneal would probably top my list if it's that way 'round. And yerself vt except perhaps the firearms thing in the States is a bit of a wildcard...that's, as looked at from here you understand.
Why you would put Ken ahead of myself is an interesting question. And don't worry about the firearms in America thing , I am well set to be the shooter not the shootee.
And to other peoples points about the difference in ages of forum members:; I think that it is a draw as the older members have been playing the game without the rules being apparent so are already in the third quarter and stuck with the game they have already played unknowingly. You young whippersnappers have no excuse for not pursuing a winning strategy from this time forward and us old fossils will yield you that extreme advantage because we think you are fun to watch.
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vtsnowedin wrote: I am well set to be the shooter not the shootee.
You see, that's the enormous gulf between our moral standpoints. I would never see myself in your role.

Somebody once wrote "Thou shallt not kill" and it was one of the best things ever written.
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I have limited faith in firearms, the other lot may be better armed, more numerous, or simply lucky.
In most emergencies I would still prefer to have a gun than not.

I would prefer to be the shooter rather than the shot, but would try and avoid a shootout if at all possible.

As posted elswhere on these forums I am a great believer in keeping a low profile during any serious emergency, wear old, dark colored clothes, wear silent footwear, dont show lights by night or smoke by day, dont prepare strong smelling foods, avoid a noisy generator, listen to the radio with an earpiece, dont look well fed or otherwise affluent, and use a gun only as a last resort remembering that the report can be heard for miles in some conditions.
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