recognising reality

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 08 Jan 2013, 08:19

peaceful_life wrote:http://www.culturechange.org/cms/content/view/872/1/

Trees!!

Yes please.

Preferably native species.

Although the problem is they'll probably end up being burned.

stumuzz · Post by **stumuzz** » 08 Jan 2013, 09:26

biffvernon wrote:
The Deniers, the Doomers and the Don't Cares.

For there to be a denier, you must by necessary implication have a believer?

Therefore, the human race should be divided;

The believers, the Deniers, the Doomers and the Don't Cares.

Blue Peter · Post by **Blue Peter** » 08 Jan 2013, 09:43

My local denier has just said that he heard on R4 today that the Met Office have revised all their predictions, and they now predict no warming for the next 20 years. I can't see any reference to this in the Beeb headlines; anyone know what it is about?

Peter.

Post by **clv101** » 08 Jan 2013, 10:27

Blue Peter wrote:... anyone know what it is about?

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/cl ... decadal-fc

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 08 Jan 2013, 11:06

peaceful_life wrote:http://www.culturechange.org/cms/content/view/872/1/

Trees!!

• The excess carbon in the atmosphere, roughly the extra 100 parts per million added since industrialization, can be sequestered if several million people planted one tree a day for a few years.

What a superb idea.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 08 Jan 2013, 11:43

peaceful_life wrote:http://www.culturechange.org/cms/content/view/872/1/

Trees!!

That article is brilliant. Somebody talking about doing stuff.

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 08 Jan 2013, 11:44

To paraphrase, the Met Office says that for about a decade, natural cooling cycles will partially offset rising temperatures, but after that the warming will accelerate.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 08 Jan 2013, 11:53

RalphW wrote:To paraphrase, the Met Office says that for about a decade, natural cooling cycles will partially offset rising temperatures, but after that the warming will accelerate.

Yep.

Though, you'd have never picked up that subtlety from the bloody Today programme report on Radio 4 this morning!

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 08 Jan 2013, 13:43

emordnilap wrote:
peaceful_life wrote:http://www.culturechange.org/cms/content/view/872/1/

Trees!!

• The excess carbon in the atmosphere, roughly the extra 100 parts per million added since industrialization, can be sequestered if several million people planted one tree a day for a few years.
What a superb idea.

Trouble is that just planting them isn't good enough. They also have to be allowed to grow. Last year I deliberately distributed several hundred cherry plums in various locations where a cherry plum tree might grow - roadsides, waste ground, etc... Most will be doomed, even if they germinate and start growing, because some future human will decide they don't belong there. But I guess if just one of them grows into an adult tree then it was worth it.

Blue Peter · Post by **Blue Peter** » 08 Jan 2013, 15:12

Thanks all for the Met Office stuff,

Peter.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 11 Jan 2013, 16:55

stumuzz wrote:
biffvernon wrote:
The Deniers, the Doomers and the Don't Cares.
For there to be a denier, you must by necessary implication have a believer?

Therefore, the human race should be divided;

The believers, the Deniers, the Doomers and the Don't Cares.

Believers are the same people as Doomers, but less alliterative.

stumuzz · Post by **stumuzz** » 11 Jan 2013, 21:20

biffvernon wrote: Believers are the same people as Doomers,

Yep. I would agree with that.