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Lord Beria3 wrote:Niall Ferguson is a very interesting and intelligent guy with thought provoking views.

I think that it is good that the BBC broadcast different opinions - its a sign of democracy.

He does have a point with the article below - cuts will have to be made to public sector pension liabilities to avoid fiscal collapse otherwise the working young will end up paying 90% tax rates.

The boomer generation had it good for many decades, they need to face serious cuts. Welcome to reality.
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As I said before, I enjoy some of Niall Ferguson's writing and at least he has admitted to being a neo con.

However he is a Bilderberger and the historian of the Rothschild family (see his bibliography). His conclusions seem mysteriously convenient in that they always seem to push forward neo con interests. I see him not as a pursuer of truth, wherever it leads, but as a paid and accomplished PR man.
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energy-village wrote:I see him not as a pursuer of truth, wherever it leads, but as a paid and accomplished PR man.
True. He's an "I'm alright Jack" who would probably encourage the unemployed to work for free, in addition to shouldering others' debts.
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energy-village wrote:As I said before, I enjoy some of Niall Ferguson's writing and at least he has admitted to being a neo con.

However he is a Bilderberger and the historian of the Rothschild family (see his bibliography). His conclusions seem mysteriously convenient in that they always seem to push forward neo con interests. I see him not as a pursuer of truth, wherever it leads, but as a paid and accomplished PR man.
I feel exactly the same way about the man.
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I think this was on the 13/11/2012.

See here too, with an amusing mistake:
Surprisingly there has been a record and a list taken of those in attendance, ranging from international bankers to world political leaders. The translated article also has two separate sections listing the various Bilderberg members in attendance.
Local newspapers have estimated the cost of the event at 100 euros, for the 80 some people in attendance.
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Guardian:
Bilderberg guest list includes George Osborne and Ed Balls

Heads of big tax-avoiding firms also set to attend secretive group's four-day summit being held near Watford

George Osborne and his Labour shadow, Ed Balls, are on a list of those attending this week's UK summit of the secretive Bilderberg group alongside the heads of DODGY TAX AVOIDERS and Google, both of which are under unprecedented political pressure over their companies' aggressive tax avoidance policies.

Jeff Bezos, DODGY TAX AVOIDERS's founder and chief executive, and Google's executive chairman, Eric Schmidt, will rub shoulders with dozens of other figures from the global political and financial elite at the annual four-day meeting of the organisation, this year held near Watford. The group's lack of transparency has long caused critics to characterise it as a secretive cabal.

A list of about 140 participants, made up almost overwhelmingly of white males but described as "a diverse group of political leaders and experts from industry", was published on Monday by the organisation. It included only 14 women. The organisation said that those attending the summit at the Grove hotel would discuss topics including "jobs, entitlement and debt", "how big data is changing almost everything" and "can the US and Europe grow faster and create jobs?"

The list of 12 topics provided in a short press release also included, simply, "current affairs". It added: "The conference has always been a forum for informal, off-the-record discussions about megatrends and the major issues facing the world."

"Thanks to the private nature of the conference, the participants are not bound by the conventions of office or by pre-agreed positions. As such, they can take time to listen, reflect and gather insights. There is no detailed agenda, no resolutions are proposed, no votes are taken, and no policy statements are issued."

Attenders from financial backgrounds include Marcus Agius, the former chairman of Barclays who quit the post in the wake of the Libor interbank lending rate scandal, as well as Douglas J Flint, group chairman of HSBC Holdings plc, which was hit with a $1.9bn (£1.25bn) fine last December over allegations it had acted as banker for rogue states, terrorists and drug lords.

Peter Sutherland, the chairman of Goldman Sachs International, and Michael J Evans, vice-chairman of Goldman Sachs & Co, are the participants from the investment banking giant whose involvement in the sale of high-risk mortgage related investments has borne much of the blame for causing the 2008 global financial crisis.

As well as Balls and Osborne, other Britons attending include the Tory MP and minister Ken Clarke, and the former Labour MP and minister Peter Mandelson, who is listed as attending in his capacity as chairman of his strategic advice consultancy, Global Counsel, and as chairman of Lazard International, an investment bank.

This year's meeting of the group, which first met 1954 with the aim of shoring up US-European relations in the cold war years, will attract scrutiny from the media along with, as usual, a small army of individuals harbouring a range of theories about what is really discussed behind the event's closed doors. This year's summit coincides in the UK with the outbreak of a fresh scandal over lobbying and calls for a statutory register of lobbyists.

A small number of journalists have received precious invitations to go behind the curtain. This year they include Martin Wolff of the Financial Times, the newspaper's chief economics commentator, John Micklethwait, editor-in-chief of the Economist, as well as a number of others including Lilli Gruber, an anchorwoman at the privately owned Italian television channel, La 7 TV, Aslı Aydıntaşbaş, a columnist at Turkey's Milliyet newspaper

Veteran participants include Henry Kissinger, the former US secretary of state, and Lord Carrington, the former Conservative politician and foreign secretary.
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The list of 12 topics provided in a short press release also included, simply, "current affairs". It added: "The conference has always been a forum for informal, off-the-record discussions about megatrends and the major issues facing the world."

"Thanks to the private nature of the conference, the participants are not bound by the conventions of office or by pre-agreed positions. As such, they can take time to listen, reflect and gather insights. There is no detailed agenda, no resolutions are proposed, no votes are taken, and no policy statements are issued."
Seems like an ideal opportunity for TPTB to meet and discuss things with people outside their normal circles then, like some of the people protesting outside, and genuine representatives of "the man on the Clapham omnibus".
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http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/bilderb ... tax-system
Beyond all the fanfare, however, the central question still
remains: what items will be on the agenda at this year’s
ultra-secret transatlantic steering committee? The answer to
this question may be hidden in plain site.

Google is currently engaged in a battle over unpaid taxes in
the UK, and which has led political commentators to now call
for a new system of global taxation. Not surprisingly, this has
become the chief topic of discussion at a series of global
summits taking place during May and June.

Here’s how this major issue rose out of the Google debate,
and how it will be folded into Bilderberg’s 2013 agenda, and
later to the G8 Summit shortly thereafter…
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