Olympics

[clv101]

And also remember a good chunk of that £9bn, paying for jobs here, came from foreign corps.

Don't get me wrong - I think it's a net-negative for us the hosting the games. However, as with many things, it's not universally bad, not black and white.

[acman]

And also remember a good chunk of that £9bn, paying for jobs here, came from foreign corps.

Don't get me wrong - I think it's a net-negative for us the hosting the games. However, as with many things, it's not universally bad, not black and white.

As I said, it is difficult to quantify, and yes it will have helped with employment. As foe forieign corps 'paying', towards jobs here, if they did, you can be certain they will have made from the deal,.
As Catweazle as stated, what will happen to the stadiums etc?, The Australian olympics were a big success originally, but I remember seeing a a report that just a couple of years after hosting the event, the main stadium was in a state, unused, too expensive to use, I wonder if that will happen here. I know there has been talk of a football club taking it over, but nothing as far as I'm aware has been done, it'll be too big for a league club to take on, the running & maintenance costs will be too much unless it can be drastiacally downsized, which will be in effect knocking it down.
Regards, Alan.

[SleeperService]

I have no inside knowledge but just googling it appears that many of the venues are temporary structures to be removed after the Games.

Most of the Olympic village has been built without kitchens as the catering was done centrally (cost saving also probabily a factor).

The venues that have been built and will be useful will need at least some of the cost writing off to be viable.

Some venues that have been reused Lords, Weymouth etc. will get some benefit.

IMHO the Olympics are about cake and circuses, each one has lost money for the hosts, it will always be so, they're an expensive party. I wonder what the cost of road closures to the economy during the road events will be? Will it be mentioned?

EDIT TO ADD: The cost of the games is, today, £9billion according to the radio interview a few days ago sponsorship etc. was £1.1 billion. With the big sponsors all operating in the UK I am pretty sure that will all be offset against tax, if it isn't the companies involved need better accountants

[peaceful_life]

Each of the words you have used make individual sense. However, the order in which you have put them makes no sense at all.

Given the fact that our language is itself a cognitive straitjacket, it's no wonder we have confusion.

Other than that, I 'think' you 'know' what I'm saying.

You think I am in denial about changing my mind about whether the ceremony was crap?

Nope

Don't misunderstand me, in production terms, it was fine. I am just not judging it in production terms. I am judging it in cultural, historical and, primarily, sporting terms. I am also, not in short measure, judging it in financial terms.

In all of those terms, it was crap.

Far from it, I'm saying the entire thing was an expression of denial.

[Little John]

Given the fact that our language is itself a cognitive straitjacket, it's no wonder we have confusion.

Other than that, I 'think' you 'know' what I'm saying.

You think I am in denial about changing my mind about whether the ceremony was crap?

Nope

Don't misunderstand me, in production terms, it was fine. I am just not judging it in production terms. I am judging it in cultural, historical and, primarily, sporting terms. I am also, not in short measure, judging it in financial terms.

In all of those terms, it was crap.

Far from it, I'm saying the entire thing was an expression of denial.

Ah right, gotcha.....

[peaceful_life]

You think I am in denial about changing my mind about whether the ceremony was crap?

Nope

Don't misunderstand me, in production terms, it was fine. I am just not judging it in production terms. I am judging it in cultural, historical and, primarily, sporting terms. I am also, not in short measure, judging it in financial terms.

In all of those terms, it was crap.

Far from it, I'm saying the entire thing was an expression of denial.

Ah right, gotcha.....

Thanks for that, knew you would ;-0)

[biffvernon]

There were bubbles:

For those who don't know, we had 55 people all on our new Giant bubble nets on the Field of Play, and another 600 bubble guns in amongst the audience to make up a total of a billion bubbles!

[RenewableCandy]

I have no inside knowledge but just googling it appears that many of the venues are temporary structures to be removed after the Games.

Aha, that'll be to avoid all that pesky regulation about energy efficiency and proportions of the housing having to be "affordable". Etc.

Anyway, isn't the Village already flogged to Qatar or something?

[DominicJ]

No Olympic city has ever profited, ever.
Even DURING the games, hotels take a beating.

[RenewableCandy]

A desperate denial of cerebral metamorphosis.

You mean that there's some cerebral metamorphosis going on right now and we're all in denial? Or, erm, what?

[biffvernon]

Why, apart from the opening gig, was the big stadium not used for the first six days?

[rue_d_etropal]

just caught a bit of the women's marathon , and the runners collected drinks then dropped the empty cartons on the ground.
Not a very good example to our children watching.
It might be trivial, but those in sports are meant to set a good example.
A bin could have been provided, no more trouble than providing the tables to give out the drinks in the first place.

[Tarrel]

Why, apart from the opening gig, was the big stadium not used for the first six days?

Because they were working flat out to remove the chimneys, etc, re-locate the flame and set up the athletics track and field.

[Little John]

just caught a bit of the women's marathon , and the runners collected drinks then dropped the empty cartons on the ground.
Not a very good example to our children watching.
It might be trivial, but those in sports are meant to set a good example.
A bin could have been provided, no more trouble than providing the tables to give out the drinks in the first place.

Sport has nothing extrinsically moral to tell us. Or, rather, it should be seen as being morally neutral. It simply is what it is. I'm fed up of hearing all of this bollocks we constantly hear about how sport is the perfect vehicle for imbuing morals in our youngsters and about how athletes are there to set a moral example.

Yes, it can be used for that. It can also be used to justify a master race. It can be used to imbue a desire to compete according to rules. It can also be used to push against rules to breaking point. It is not a moral activity in and of itself. Therefore, it is no more or less useful a vehicle for imbuing morality than many other human activities.

[biffvernon]