Pirate Party

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 19 May 2012, 18:40

Die Piraten Partei seems to have done rather well, with 11% of the vote in recent German Elections.

In Britain they have a rather jolly flag:

What's not to like?
http://www.pirateparty.org.uk

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 19 May 2012, 19:08

Yet another drain on the votes for mainstream politicians.

As for file-sharing - that started when the compact cassette recorder became affordable to the masses in the mid seventies, and the music industry has been fighting a losing battle ever since.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 19 May 2012, 19:43

UndercoverElephant wrote:Yet another drain on the votes for mainstream politicians.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 19 May 2012, 19:56

biffvernon wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:Yet another drain on the votes for mainstream politicians.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

A good thing.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 19 May 2012, 20:11

Corret answer. Just checking

mobbsey · Post by **mobbsey** » 19 May 2012, 21:36

No British Government has been elected on a majority of the whole electorate since Stanley Baldwin in 1935. The last time Bliar was elected he did so with only a fifth of the public vote. Cameron would have got a quarter, but for the support of the LibDems (who got even less).

The issue that politics won't deal with is the fact that people don't vote because they have nothing to vote for -- and that means nothing they do has popular legitimacy.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 20 May 2012, 07:41

So is that saying the Pirate Party is a good thing? Just checking.

mobbsey · Post by **mobbsey** » 20 May 2012, 07:55

biffvernon wrote:So is that saying the Pirate Party is a good thing?

I think it makes no real difference at all -- especially their proposals for "e democracy" which centralise power in network providers/the media rather than distributing it to local people.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 20 May 2012, 07:58

You're right. Always safest to sit on the fence.

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » 20 May 2012, 08:02

Pirate Party UK? New?

I thought they were currently in power.

mobbsey · Post by **mobbsey** » 20 May 2012, 08:04

biffvernon wrote:You're right. Always safest to sit on the fence.

People who sit on the fence get piles!

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 21 May 2012, 11:20

It's a shame one of the pictures on their front page shows a placard calling for 'jobs, growth, justice'. This is them endorsing growth, which we all know is finished.

Sorry to be picky but the devil is in the details.

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 21 May 2012, 16:48

emordnilap wrote:It's a shame one of the pictures on their front page shows a placard calling for 'jobs, growth, justice'.

Surely pirates are fugitives from justice, and you couldn't call what they do a proper job. I guess that growth is good for them though, as it creates more stuff for them to steal!

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 21 May 2012, 23:19

emordnilap wrote:It's a shame one of the pictures on their front page shows a placard calling for 'jobs, growth, justice'. This is them endorsing growth, which we all know is finished.

Sorry to be picky but the devil is in the details.

I noticed that. It's why I haven't joined. I want to join a Truthful Party.

extractorfan · Post by **extractorfan** » 22 May 2012, 09:22

That's a bit harsh, it's just an image of dissatisfaction.

Try entering into a debate about growth with them, and even if right now the party thinks it's possible to have infinite growth (I don't think this is the case for the most prominant members) it doesn't mean they are being untruthful, just wrong.